Video: Dale Earnhardt, Jr bumps Brian Vickers causing pileup at 2009 Daytona 500
44 Comments Published February 15th, 2009 in NASCAR VideosDale Earnhardt, Jr bumps Brian Vickers causing pileup at 2009 Daytona 500:
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It is the job of the overtaker to make sure they make the pass in a safe and legal manner, if they can not make the pass in a safe and legal manner, it is the job of the overtaker to fall back in line in a safe and legal manner.
No names mentioned, but 1 driver a lap down racing another driver a lap down and the 2nd driver a lap down spins the driver the first lap down and wrecks half the field. All i got to say is lefler did the same thing the night before and got penalized and this driver didnt and this driver didnt.
I’m still trying to figure out why Jr was even racing him for the lucky dog position (this is another example of NASCAR changing rules day to day), because Jr was a lap down because of a NASCAR penalty, so he should not have been able to get the free-pass to get that lap back.
I bet vickers will think twice before he try’s to block Jr again. hehehe
Well Jr was a lap down cause he broke Nascar rules, and he was in that situation cause he missed his pit in the forst place. Then he get upset, cause of his mistake and wrecks Vickers. No jr will ever admit but he messed up all die to his own mistakes. If Jr hadnt screwed up hispits he wouldnt had been in this situation. Once again jr screws up and everyone kisses his buttttttttttt
[quote comment="49625"]I bet vickers will think twice before he try’s to block Jr again. hehehe[/quote]
Don’t worry one day Jr is gonna pull one of those bonehead moves again, and he’ll end up in an urn sitting on a shelf next to his dad.
[quote comment="49625"]I bet vickers will think twice before he try’s to block Jr again. hehehe[/quote]
Yea now everyone in the field knows not to even get within 10 car lengths of that total idiot of a driver! Jr. is a horrible driver and his massive total of 18 Sprint Cup wins proves it.
Fisha, you call yourself a racing fan, your last comment was unacceptable, and you should be ashamed of making that statement. How do you think his family, friends and fans would feel if they saw you post that. As another racing fan, i have lost all respect for you, i used to read your knowledge of local short track racing and take it to heart because i to do that. But wow, that was just uncalled for, how would you feel if someone said that about you.
GordonOwnz, Jr still has more wins than most of the field racing today, so i really don’t see where he being a horrible driver and having 18 Sprint Cup Victories should be mentioned in the same category. That’s quite a feat to have and a lot can’t say they have done that.
What I said is 100% true, and it wasn’t meant in a way as in “Somebodies going to kill him”, but as in the truthful way that if he keeps driving like he drove today there is a very very good chance he won’t live to retire.
As harsh as that may sound it is 100% true. He made more mistakes today, and drove like more of a bonehead today then during his Nationwide and Cup rookie seasons combined.
I don’t know if it’s because he stays up till 6am on iRacing and he thinks video games are real life now, or if he is just finally having a meltdown because he has been to much of a coward to stand up and tell the fans and media to back off and let him do his own thing and be his own man. Whatever it was, if he continues to preform the rest of the season like he did today (and a few other times during speedweeks), there is a very high chance that he will injure/kill somebody or himself.
[quote comment="49651"]What I said is 100% true, and it wasn’t meant in a way as in “Somebodies going to kill him”, but as in the truthful way that if he keeps driving like he drove today there is a very very good chance he won’t live to retire.
As harsh as that may sound it is 100% true. He made more mistakes today, and drove like more of a bonehead today then during his Nationwide and Cup rookie seasons combined.
I don’t know if it’s because he stays up till 6am on iRacing and he thinks video games are real life now, or if he is just finally having a meltdown because he has been to much of a coward to stand up and tell the fans and media to back off and let him do his own thing and be his own man. Whatever it was, if he continues to preform the rest of the season like he did today (and a few other times during speedweeks), there is a very high chance that he will injure/kill somebody or himself.[/quote]
I don’t know what you saw but i saw two drivers screw up not just one and from all accounts Jr didn’t know Vickers was on the same lap. BTW he didn’t get the lucky dog until the following caution so once again your wrong. Another thing your reference to the urn is disgusting and you should be ashamed.
the block that vickers threw out there was pretty hefty, JR had the better run. the SMART thing would have been to let him by. JR tries to get back up and clipped him. it happens! its not like he bump-drafted on the turn. had he not been aggressive in tryin to get back into his spot, he would been freight-trained ALLLLLL the way back. listen, crashes happen. if you don’t like that cars crash, whether from a blown tire or an agressive drive, go sit in the hauler or watch a different sport.
I know ALOT of people who are talking trash SIMPLY because JR was involved. had it been Robby Gordon, same thing. what if it was JEFF Gordon or Jimmie Johnson who was in Jr’s spot?
[quote comment="49656"]I don’t know what you saw but i saw two drivers screw up not just one and from all accounts Jr didn’t know Vickers was on the same lap. BTW he didn’t get the lucky dog until the following caution so once again your wrong. Another thing your reference to the urn is disgusting and you should be ashamed.[/quote]
Vickers made a 100% legal move, Jr didn’t like it so he turned right, and hooked him.
Don’t get me wrong TJ is at fault too for not letting his driver know who he was racing for what position.
I never said Jr got the lucky dog from that caution. I said he was racing for that position, and that according to what was said Friday and Saturday you can not get laps back if you are laps down because of a NASCAR Penalty (which JR was).
As for the urn thing, it’s perfectly true and not disgusting at all. He’ll end up in an urn like his father in the Mausoleum that is on Teresa’s property.
If Vickers was a better driver, he wouldn’t have lost it….
I know everyone lways likes to blame Junior for every wreck. What Vickers did was completly legal. Although i would have to agree with darrel waltrip that was kinda harsh block with 75 laps to go. If you watched the replay where they let you listen to juniors engine and throttle response, as he is turning back to get into line he lets off the throttle for a second thn gets back in it. That clearly shows he wasn’t trying to just turn into the back end of Brian. If he was trying to take out Brian he would of just turned him instead of letting off the throttle. Was it unfortante yeah it was but racin is racin its one of those things. Again im not trying to stick up for Dale i’m just sayin in my opinion i think he just misjudged the room he had.
Here is the Bottom Line.
If any of us are drving down the street adn we run into someone in front of us it is our fault. Same goes here Vickers threw a block and jr got mad and turned. No matter what happened jr hit vickers there is no way around it, no way to argue it. The only person in the media who has manned up and said it was Spencer on victory lane, of course Waltrip and Myers are going to be nice god forbid they make Jr nation mad by speaking the truth. Block were being thrown all race and Jr was the only person blocked who managed to cause and 18 car wreck. He should have been parked for 5 just like Leffler was, more proof Jr is the prodigal son of nascar can do what ever he want. This was completely unacceptable and all of it started from jr screwing up in the pits twice, that of his own doing. First he blames everyone for changing there pit board to his color, then he says he was and inch on the line and they need to look at that rule, why should the rules be changed 42 other driver managed to have no issues and he does so know he wants the rule to looked at. EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES
brian vickers said that dalejr did this intentionly in front of the field. he must have forgot about himself doing the same thing a couple of years ago. I will also add that in that race dalejr held his line and he was leading the race. The people that made the harsh coments didn’t see the same race I saw where dalejr drove one of the best races I’ve seen him drive in a long time. he wasn’t that aggessive. I thougt he was calculating in his moves. He didn’t even block smoke when he was leading. People better BEWARE this year of the DALEJR!!!
Jr. is the biggest loser in Nascar. The only reason he is popular at all is because of his dad. That move on Sunday caused the big one and it was 100% his fault. Jr. will win less races then last year(1) and will show how much he cares about himself and no one else, not even his own family.
TOMMY
Beware of JR please how long does his fans have to defend his inablility. Also you said Jr held his line at Dega, well first of all you obviously forgot what happened there. jr wasnt hit by vikcers he was hit by jimmy, secondly if u watch the video jr is coming down the track to block but thats not what caused the accident, when vickers hooked jimmy thats what caused the accident just like yesterday it was 100% jr’s fault.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS82vHdxsAE
[quote comment="49694"]Jr. is the biggest loser in Nascar. The only reason he is popular at all is because of his dad. That move on Sunday caused the big one and it was 100% his fault. Jr. will win less races then last year(1) and will show how much he cares about himself and no one else, not even his own family.[/quote]
Now that is a bunch of bull i didn’t even like Sr and how do you explain 18 cup victories? The stats don’t back up your claim so go sell it somewhere else.
[quote comment="49666"][quote comment="49656"]I don’t know what you saw but i saw two drivers screw up not just one and from all accounts Jr didn’t know Vickers was on the same lap. BTW he didn’t get the lucky dog until the following caution so once again your wrong. Another thing your reference to the urn is disgusting and you should be ashamed.[/quote]
Vickers made a 100% legal move, Jr didn’t like it so he turned right, and hooked him.
Don’t get me wrong TJ is at fault too for not letting his driver know who he was racing for what position.
I never said Jr got the lucky dog from that caution. I said he was racing for that position, and that according to what was said Friday and Saturday you can not get laps back if you are laps down because of a NASCAR Penalty (which JR was).
As for the urn thing, it’s perfectly true and not disgusting at all. He’ll end up in an urn like his father in the Mausoleum that is on Teresa’s property.[/quote]
from now on i’m ignoring you and thats all i have to say to you
To the rowdybuckethead comment about the dega race this just goes show that brian v can’t drive to start with.
Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.
[quote comment="49686"]Here is the Bottom Line.
If any of us are drving down the street adn we run into someone in front of us it is our fault. Same goes here Vickers threw a block and jr got mad and turned. No matter what happened jr hit vickers there is no way around it, no way to argue it. The only person in the media who has manned up and said it was Spencer on victory lane, of course Waltrip and Myers are going to be nice god forbid they make Jr nation mad by speaking the truth. Block were being thrown all race and Jr was the only person blocked who managed to cause and 18 car wreck. He should have been parked for 5 just like Leffler was, more proof Jr is the prodigal son of nascar can do what ever he want. This was completely unacceptable and all of it started from jr screwing up in the pits twice, that of his own doing. First he blames everyone for changing there pit board to his color, then he says he was and inch on the line and they need to look at that rule, why should the rules be changed 42 other driver managed to have no issues and he does so know he wants the rule to looked at. EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES[/quote]
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JR had a big run on vickers and vickers knew that he was going to blow by him, so he tried to block with 70 plus laps to go. THat was a stupid thing to do at 190 mph. That type of blocking did not go on all day because the other drivers knew they had plenty of time to get back up front…but vickers rarely runs anywhere near the front and he made a big mistake.
[quote comment="49701"]Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.[/quote]
What is vickers winning %?
[quote comment="49682"]If Vickers was a better driver, he wouldn’t have lost it….[/quote]
ANY driver would have lost it when they got clipped like that.
[quote comment="49683"]I know everyone lways likes to blame Junior for every wreck. What Vickers did was completly legal. Although i would have to agree with darrel waltrip that was kinda harsh block with 75 laps to go.[/quote]
Here is the thing though, it wasn’t 75 laps to go, at that point the lap counter didn’t matter because all the teams knew they were racing to the rain that was only a few minutes out, and that lap could have been the last lap.
[quote comment="49706"][quote comment="49701"]Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.[/quote]
What is vickers winning %?[/quote]
Winning % isn’t the stat that matters, Running at Finish is the one that does, as well as Lead Lap Finish percentage, and your average finishing position. Here are those stats for a number of drivers.
Menard – 92% RAF
Edwards – 92%
Johnson – 90%
Stewart – 90%
Sorenson – 87%
McMurray – 86%
Dale Jr – 86%
B. Labonte – 86%
Vickers – 85%
J. Gordon – 85%
Newman – 83%
Truex Jr – 82%
T. Labonte – 81%
R. Gordon – 80%
Montoya – 80%
K. Petty – 78%
R. Petty – 70%
Edwards – 77% LLF
Johnson – 76%
Stewart – 72%
J. Gordon – 69%
Dale Jr – 64%
Truex Jr – 62%
Newman – 60%
McMurray – 58%
B. Labonte – 52%
Vickers – 49%
Sorenson – 44%
Montoya – 38%
T. Labonte – 35%
Menard – 33%
R. Petty – 32%
R. Gordon – 30%
K. Petty – 23%
Average Finish
R. Petty – 11.3
Johnson – 11.8
J. Gordon – 12.4
Stewart – 12.7
Edwards – 13.6
T. Labonte – 16.2
Dale Jr – 16.2
B. Labonte – 17.3
Newman – 17.5
McMurray – 19.1
Truex Jr – 19.2
K. Petty – 21.3
Vickers – 21.4
Montoya – 23.3
Sorenson – 25.1
R. Gordon – 25.4
Menard – 26.0
I agree that it was both people Dale and Vickers fault. Vickers set up the caution Dale just brought it out. Dale should have got the 5 lap penalty (same as what happened in the nationwide) but Vickers should have also got some type of penalty due to how his behavior was after. Unfortunatly it was a bad day for Earnhardt as quoted by Kyle Busch “he was just having a bad day.” It’s bad now but everyone will soon forget about it just like all other times. Also ROWDY BUSH his last name is spelled busch lol.
[quote comment="49706"][quote comment="49701"]Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.[/quote]
What is vickers winning %?[/quote]
The fact that your comparing vickers to jr. just goes to show that jr. isn’t a quality driver.
[quote comment="49710"][quote comment="49706"][quote comment="49701"]Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.[/quote]
What is vickers winning %?[/quote]
Winning % isn’t the stat that matters, Running at Finish is the one that does, as well as Lead Lap Finish percentage, and your average finishing position. Here are those stats for a number of drivers.
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Your absolutely wrong, drivers are known for their wins and championships, not where they finished other than that. You can bring up pro Jr-spun stats all day but the fact is that he doesn’t win many races therefore is overrated for the amount of publicity he gets.
Kyle Busch was dominating NASCAR last year but no one will remember him because he didn’t finish a winner.
I’m not wrong in saying that winning % is a stat that does not matter. The only time winning % matters is if you have over 90% in that category, and then it only matters as bragging rights. What matters are good consistent runs, That is how you get championships, and hell Shrub proved that last year. Out of all 3 series he had the highest winning % in each series, but he didn’t win that championship because wins don’t win championships.
So let me get this right? Basically what you’ll are saying nobody is allowed to block Jr, and if you do its ok for him to spin you.
Also jr had nobody behind him so he would have got one spot and still not have been the first car a lap down so what was he racing for he had nothing to accomplish.
with 77 laps to go they restarted from a caution Sadler was the leaded with vickers and montoya on the tail end of the leap lap ahead of him when the flag dropped, also jr the first car a lap down on the inside lane was followed by robby gordon, scott speed, and newman. when they get to the backstretch the accident happens and robby gordon was ahead of both of them so racing for the lucky dog was even stupid at that point,
Also everyone says vickers was blocking it was his fault, ok well then how come when Jimmy blocked or slid in front of vickers at Dega that was just as much of a risky move everyone blamed vickers for turning jimmy and jr, and jimmy was blocking yet now vickers is the one blocking same as jr was doing the bumping and now its not jr’s fault.
WHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA everyone else changed there pit board to my color, HMMMM nobody else had and issue, and WHHHHHHAAAAAAAA nascar needs to look at the rule cause I was only an inch on the line, what the hell does he mean Nascar needs to look at the rule he broke the rule and the official was even pointing it out and tried to help him and his crew member shoved the guy out of the way. He broke the rule a clear and defined rule Jr has known about for years and he still can take responsibility for breaking the rules its never his fault.
[quote comment="49635"][quote comment="49625"]I bet vickers will think twice before he try’s to block Jr again. hehehe[/quote]
Don’t worry one day Jr is gonna pull one of those bonehead moves again, and he’ll end up in an urn sitting on a shelf next to his dad.[/quote]
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Fisha you are a freaking idiot, why do you talk about the dead like that, is Sr involved in yesterday’s incident?
[quote comment="49648"]Fisha, you call yourself a racing fan, your last comment was unacceptable, and you should be ashamed of making that statement. How do you think his family, friends and fans would feel if they saw you post that. As another racing fan, i have lost all respect for you, i used to read your knowledge of local short track racing and take it to heart because i to do that. But wow, that was just uncalled for, how would you feel if someone said that about you.
GordonOwnz, Jr still has more wins than most of the field racing today, so i really don’t see where he being a horrible driver and having 18 Sprint Cup Victories should be mentioned in the same category. That’s quite a feat to have and a lot can’t say they have done that.[/quote]
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That’s cause GordonOwnz is an idiot like fisha, Rowdy Bush, so you gotta expect that from heartless human beings.
GO Jr. nation.
Fisha should be banned.
[quote comment="49651"]What I said is 100% true, and it wasn’t meant in a way as in “Somebodies going to kill him”, but as in the truthful way that if he keeps driving like he drove today there is a very very good chance he won’t live to retire.
As harsh as that may sound it is 100% true. He made more mistakes today, and drove like more of a bonehead today then during his Nationwide and Cup rookie seasons combined.
I don’t know if it’s because he stays up till 6am on iRacing and he thinks video games are real life now, or if he is just finally having a meltdown because he has been to much of a coward to stand up and tell the fans and media to back off and let him do his own thing and be his own man. Whatever it was, if he continues to preform the rest of the season like he did today (and a few other times during speedweeks), there is a very high chance that he will injure/kill somebody or himself.[/quote]
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I would like to see fisha, GordonOwnz, Rowdy Bush jump in the 88 and do better than Jr, and anyone else who thinks they are better driver than Jr!!!
[quote comment="49695"]TOMMY
Beware of JR please how long does his fans have to defend his inablility. Also you said Jr held his line at Dega, well first of all you obviously forgot what happened there. jr wasnt hit by vikcers he was hit by jimmy, secondly if u watch the video jr is coming down the track to block but thats not what caused the accident, when vickers hooked jimmy thats what caused the accident just like yesterday it was 100% jr’s fault.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS82vHdxsAE/quote
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Vickers what a worthless waste of oxygen, taking his team mate out, but he didn’t give a rats @ss cause he was leaving Hendrick that year anyway, but when it happens to him, boo hoo he doe’s…
Jack Daniels
First of all, we dont get pad millions like jr does, second of all I could hop in the car and take out half the field just like jr did yesterday, I could also hop in the car and miss a pit stall and i could even hit the pit and then park on the line. Jr says Nascar needs to look at the rule, who does Jr think he is, the rules are made for a reason. How long will nascar have to change the rules before they just hand jr a championship, first he didnt make the chase the next year they go from 10 in the chase to 12 jr complains about pit stalls who knows whats next. Lets be realistic alot less talented drivers managed to hit there pits correctly all day long. Then he makes excuses and blames all of his mistakes on everyone else. Cause its never jr’s fault.
[quote comment="49719"][quote comment="49706"][quote comment="49701"]Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.[/quote]
What is vickers winning %?[/quote]
The fact that your comparing vickers to jr. just goes to show that jr. isn’t a quality driver.
[quote comment="49710"][quote comment="49706"][quote comment="49701"]Just A Fan,
A career winning percentage of .05% is not considered good by any means, it’s actually a horrible statistic which is what I stated in the first place. He might have more wins than Paul Menard and Casey Mears but I can tell you that hardly means anything. Jr is overrated and that’s a fact.[/quote]
What is vickers winning %?[/quote]
Winning % isn’t the stat that matters, Running at Finish is the one that does, as well as Lead Lap Finish percentage, and your average finishing position. Here are those stats for a number of drivers.
[/quote]
Your absolutely wrong, drivers are known for their wins and championships, not where they finished other than that. You can bring up pro Jr-spun stats all day but the fact is that he doesn’t win many races therefore is overrated for the amount of publicity he gets.
Kyle Busch was dominating NASCAR last year but no one will remember him because he didn’t finish a winner.[/quote]
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Dale Earnhardt Jr wins again for the 5th time most popular driver of 2009!!!
[quote comment="49741"]Jack Daniels
First of all, we dont get pad millions like jr does, second of all I could hop in the car and take out half the field just like jr did yesterday, I could also hop in the car and miss a pit stall and i could even hit the pit and then park on the line. Jr says Nascar needs to look at the rule, who does Jr think he is, the rules are made for a reason. How long will nascar have to change the rules before they just hand jr a championship, first he didnt make the chase the next year they go from 10 in the chase to 12 jr complains about pit stalls who knows whats next. Lets be realistic alot less talented drivers managed to hit there pits correctly all day long. Then he makes excuses and blames all of his mistakes on everyone else. Cause its never jr’s fault.[/quote]
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Again it wasn’t Jr’s fault, he was shoved BELOW the yellow line, if a semi shoved you off the road wouldn’t you try to correct before you crashed your new truck?
First of all he wasnt shoved, and the NEW rule states if you go below the double yellow lines you are to fall back into position no matter if you were forced down there or not, if you were forced down there you still have to fall back and line and nascar will look at the other driver. So no matter what Jr had to let out of the gas and he didnt he stayed in it and he hit vickers. Since you use the road reference lets use this one if you are driving down the road adn you hit someone in the back it is your fault no questions asked and jr ran into to vickers. Like they said yesterday this is a product of a frustrated driver, a driver who screws up pit road twice, simple OOPPPS lead to huge mistakes and jr proved that yesterday.
I agree with you but vickers caused it on himself because if u watch the video (high-def preferably) Vickers forced Dale below the yellow linw to the point that Vickers was also below the yellow line before he got hit. This is a act of hard racing action. What we the fans pay our hard earned money to see. I beleve Dale had a bigger part. as Kyle busch said about Dale I beleve “make his bad day our bad day.” just a bad day with racing and a big block being thrown.
last comment left by kbfan1221 so address to that
В очередной раз большое спасибо, хорошие что есть такие люди как вы, которые дают на самом деле полезные советы:)
Ну и что, результат есть ?