Report: Kasey Kahne to leave Richard Petty Motorsports for Hendrick in 2011
75 Comments Published April 13th, 2010 in NASCAR News
Kasey Kahne has agreed to a contract with Hendrick Motorsports beginning in 2011, sources told SceneDaily.com.
Richard Petty Motorsports, which has Kahne under contract for this season, confirmed that Kahne is leaving the organization.
Exactly whether Kahne will drive for a Hendrick team or for Hendrick affiliate Stewart-Haas Racing is still to be determined. Stewart-Haas, which features drivers Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman, gets chassis and engines from Hendrick.
Kahne could even be loaned to another organization for 2011, according to a source. Starting in 2012, he most likely will drive the No. 5 car, currently driven by Mark Martin and who is under contract through 2011.
Kahne is in the final year of his contract at RPM. His sponsor, Budweiser, also is in the last year of its contract with RPM. It was unclear whether Budweiser would follow Kahne to Hendrick.
The 30-year-old Kahne, who entered the Cup series in 2004 with Evernham Motorsports, has 11 career victories and is a two-time Chase For The Sprint Cup participant. He is 26th in the 2010 standings.
I wonder if this is why Rick let BK go to the 12, he may have had this in the works for some time. Either way it is a good move for HMS and a better move for Kasey. 2011 could bring a #25 Bud car to the track at SHR while Kahne waits for Mark Martin to Step out.
Silly season will get interesting now. Does this leave room for Harvick at SHR? Who ends up in the 9 Car? Will Bud follow Kahne or Stay at RPM? Does Kenny Francis go with Kasey to be his crew chief?
The official announcements will be interesting!
I like Kasey and I hoope he goes to Stewart/Haas. Hes a much better fit at Stewart/Haas then Hendrick. Even though Smoke and his organization are still associated with Hendrick I see Stewart Haas being 2 guys who are old dirt racers and true racers at heart. Not saying Jimmy, Jeff and Mark arent but, Smoke and Newman are good ole boys who do what good ole boys do. On top of all that racing is number one priority to them. Smoke and Kahne both have world of outlaw teams, they both do whatever they can to attend races from their roots like the chili bowl. Jimmie and Jeff although they are both very accomplished and talented drivers, to me they get out of the car and turn into people who are not nascar drivers, with the fancy clothes, clean shaven, new york penthouse suites in new york and so on. Where guys like smoke and newman are still down to earth good ole boys, they wanna fish and race and I see Kahne fitting in better there. I also think this team could build a new breed of nascar team. Either way Kahne is a talented driver who has done alot with little over the last few years so I sould like to see what he can do in some good equipment. How bout Kahne at HMS with Evernham as his crew chief?
KK to SHR in the #4 car with the fancy number design that he uses on his Sprint cars, up till last year he used the Evernham style #9, the towards the end of last year he debuted a new style #9, and then this season he showed up with the car as #4 instead of #9.
KK will got to Hendrick, as would any driver who could.
I am glad to see Kasey to get an opportunity to perhaps get into a good car. I don’t know how I feel yet about him going to HMS, I think he would get better equipment.
I have been speculating that it could be a possibility of him going to SHR as he does still love the dirt racing as Tony & Ryan do.
I too wondered if perhaps Evenham could be lingering in the shadows as a possible Crew chief, several weeks ago he mentioned on ESPN that he would give serious thought to go back to being a crew chief. I guess we will just have to wait and wonder until all the silliness of silly season gets into full swing. Kind of early but these days everything seems so unsure.
Hendrick Press release has Martin in the 5 for 2010 and 2011 then KK in the 5 in 2012. They are working on putting something together for him for next year to be announced at a later date. No sponsor or crew chief announcements have been made yet.
kasey to the # 5. then when keselowski’s penske contract is up, they will boot jr out of the 88. then harvick will leave the 29 to go to stewart has while dale takes the 29 over. tony and kevin then form Happy Smoke Racing!!!!!!!
I think this spells the end for Jr. at Hendricks.
If what some people speculate should happen.. 2012 will be an interesting year lol
Kahne –> #5
Harvick –> SHR (Although, I see driver and owner butting heads)
Earnhardt –> #29
Keselowski –> #88 or #25
Happy Smoke????? ROFL
[quote comment="59048"]I think this spells the end for Jr. at Hendricks.[/quote]
You thnk Hendrick will give up the most popular driver in Nascar? The number one money maker? People this is about MONEY! iF YOU DON’T MAKE MONEY YOU DIE….JUST ASK TEI OR RICHARD PETTY OR THE LIST GOES ON AND ON…..YOU MUST MAKE MONEY TO MAKE IT PERIOD.
Hendrick will never release Jr unless Jr wants to leave.
JR will want to leave soon. Would you want to be in the BEST equipment and unable to deliver the way ALL of your teammates deleiver? There is nothing left to blame now except the driver.
“You think Hendrick will give up the most popular driver in Nascar? The number one money maker? People this is about MONEY! iF YOU DON’T MAKE MONEY YOU DIE….JUST ASK TEI OR RICHARD PETTY OR THE LIST GOES ON AND ON…..YOU MUST MAKE MONEY TO MAKE IT PERIOD.”
HMS was the most valuable team long before J(oke)R(acer) came over to make his cars look very average. HMS is all about winning championships!
[quote comment="59060"]“You think Hendrick will give up the most popular driver in Nascar? The number one money maker? People this is about MONEY! iF YOU DON’T MAKE MONEY YOU DIE….JUST ASK TEI OR RICHARD PETTY OR THE LIST GOES ON AND ON…..YOU MUST MAKE MONEY TO MAKE IT PERIOD.”
HMS was the most valuable team long before J(oke)R(acer) came over to make his cars look very average. HMS is all about winning championships![/quote]
you really should stop sniffing whatever your sniffing
In an interview with Ray after he sold majority interest of the team to Gillette Ray said there was only 1 driver he would crew chief ever. We all know who that was/is, I see Ray going back to Hendrick but as Comp Director, Director of Engineering, or some similar capacity not as a crew chief. I think Hendrick will try to keep Kasey and Kenny together and would bet they will try to keep the sponsor too. At any rate I do not see sponsors being a major problem for Kasey and company.
I want to expand on possibilities based on comments made at the track and rumors from the past days.
JRM going cup racing is a possibility, but Rick has to divest from the team ownership roll. This is not a huge problem as he has several drivers that with the right circumstances would take an ownership roll there.
Mark Martin starting a cup team is also a possibility whether he drives or someone else does.
Harvick could do the same and we all know he wants to be in Hendrick Equipment whether it be with SHR or on his own and he has the blessing of GM which makes it a strong possibility.
JJ does not have an ownership stake at Hendrick and could partner with someone else to form a team also.
I still think SHR is a strong bet with Rick committed to finding all the puzzle pieces to make it happen.
Gordon is an Equity owner at Hendrick but some will remember he and Ray owned a team called GEM in what is now the Nationwide series that was bought by Hendrick. Although I do not see Ray taking on an ownership roll again or Gordon splitting from Hendrick because I see Gordon and Ray running Hendrick when Rick steps back and Gordon retires from driving.
Another to consider is EGR, while Chip would love to have top tier equipment for that to work out someone needs to buy Teresa’s stake in that operation. This may happen but it is unlikely.
Both Furniture Row and TRG have had loose relationships with Hendrick as well. TRG is getting it’s Pit Crew from SHR and Furniture Row had a tech alliance with Hendrick in previous seasons.
The bottom line is there are so many possibilities and we really will not know until announcements are made.
1 thing is certain though JR has to start performing better. Money is not everything to Rick because he has plenty. Other team owners (RCR) also put performance before money too, just ask Jon Wes Townley. We also know really good drivers will line up and take the leap of faith to drive cars Hendrick produces and/or fields.
Well since there no new things posted to talk about i’ll say actually the #88 has been performing better but not up where the other teams are at. I think team chemistry is getting better each week but they have to start winning races.
88 Crew Chief: “What do you think about tires?”
Dufus: “I don’t care about tires.”
How about that shake up in points, some moved up in points while some fell out of the top 12.
It’s still too early in the season to know how it’s all going to shake out but i think Gordon has done the best so far this year and if not for Johnson’s (cough) mistakes would be leading the points.
As far as Jr falling out of the top 12 that was just hard racing Bobby would never get into someone on purpose.
Well since you brought Jr up, Labonte wasnt the only one to get into JR. Menard did as well, but that wasnt jr’s issue. He was doing horrible way before that. Right back to normal.
[quote comment="59083"]Well since you brought Jr up, Labonte wasnt the only one to get into JR. Menard did as well, but that wasnt jr’s issue. He was doing horrible way before that. Right back to normal.[/quote]
yeah he was having a bad night before that but losing 3 laps in the pits noone can recover from that especially late in the race even with a great handling car but if they cant make the top 10 this year it’s time to dissolve the relationship between driver and team
My take on the points is “it ain’t over til it’s over”!! I don’t like this way of winning a championship anyway never have liked the change.
About JG, I thought he showed a good sense of humor about coming up 2nd Sunday, he was right Kyle had the fastest car.
I believe the folks in the chase now will get some more shake-ups or shake-downs.
We need a new place to chat.
Do you begin to wonder if this JR deal with RCR and DEI is the start of the domino effect. Maybe James Finch putting Phoenix racing up for sale fits in there for Mark Martin.
I am not too sure JR can or will win again in Hendrick Equipment, he seems to get tired or something in the last 100 to 200 miles of every race. So many people talk about “Does Jeff Gordon have another win in him?” I think they should be asking that about JR., he can’t even seem to close the deal in the NNS where he won 2 championships.
I wonder if KK will be driving the 25 and the 88 gets moved.
[quote comment="59086"]Do you begin to wonder if this JR deal with RCR and DEI is the start of the domino effect. Maybe James Finch putting Phoenix racing up for sale fits in there for Mark Martin.
I am not too sure JR can or will win again in Hendrick Equipment, he seems to get tired or something in the last 100 to 200 miles of every race. So many people talk about “Does Jeff Gordon have another win in him?” I think they should be asking that about JR., he can’t even seem to close the deal in the NNS where he won 2 championships.
I wonder if KK will be driving the 25 and the 88 gets moved.[/quote]
Jr will make the chase this year…And speaking of winning or running good!!! Gordon hasn’t won in awhile whats his excuse…he has great cars, Oh and Mark Martin and his team have went down hill quick the same with Carl Edwards it’s been along time since he won? just wondering for the people that try and bash Jr whats your excuse for these other guys not winning,even Tony Stewart is having a bad year whats his excuse he has the best cars money can buy.
Lee,
Nobody is bashing Jr. Also to predict Jr. Will make the chase this year is absurd. Its way to early to tell who’s going to make or not. Also these other drivers you have mentioned are far more accomplished drivers then Jr. Jr nation wants Jr to be an accomplished driver, but the FACTS are that he is mediocre at best. Gordon and smoke are both series champions. Martin is not a champ but is also a very successful driver. At this point Jr has not done any better then Casey Mears when he was there. Gordon is running good every week, a win is around the corner. Smoke hasn’t run good so far, but Smoke is a Guy who can turn it around as is mark Martin. They both have proven that when there not doing so Well they can turn it around and get back on top. Jr hasn’t proven that, no matter what team he is on. Jr goes to the premier team in NASCAR has been less then impressive, yeah other driver associated with or on this team are not doing as well either, but I can guarantee you a season finish of 25th in points would not happen. Jr nation has run there mouths ever since he left DEI telling NASCAR world to wait here he comes, then they blame Eury Jr and then just wait. Well we are still waiting. Bottom line is actions speak louder then words. His actions are not speaking so highly of him right now. If he is as good as he is suppose to be he will prove it, so far he hasn’t lived up to the hype. His new name should be THE GREAT WHITE HOPE!
Funny how rowdy has been very quiet on his JR. bashing till Pee Wee won a race. Typical Shrub fan. lol
CRYLE HATER,
Lol, everyone on here has been quiet, especially since there havent been a story posted on here lately. You yourself havent posted anything lately, but you have posted since jr’s last win. Which was about what 66 races ago. Im not bashing Jr, I said nothing negative about him. Ok well maybe calling him the great white hope, was a shot. Either way everything else has happened an nothing is made up. As for a typical Kyle fan you are sadly mistaken. This weekend at Richmond I saw 3 jr fans arrested and that was just around me. One was throwing m/m’s on the track, well atleast trying to, another grown man also a jr fan, was yelling at a child who was wearing a kyle bush shirt, and the third after the race so upset that Kyle won thought it would be a good idea to use the metal head band on his rented headset to attempt to flatten the tires on Kyles souvenir hauler. LOL LOL LOL all these guys were idiots, which is why they all got arrested. By the way one more FACT for ya, Jr has 18 cups wins and Kyle has 17, Jr has been in the series 5 years longer then Kyle. HMMMMMMM that says alot. Yeah Pee Wee won a race but he still has alot to prove, but based on performance i see a championship closer in his future then i do in jr’s future.
[quote comment="59091"]CRYLE HATER,
Lol, everyone on here has been quiet, especially since there havent been a story posted on here lately. You yourself havent posted anything lately, but you have posted since jr’s last win. Which was about what 66 races ago. Im not bashing Jr, I said nothing negative about him. Ok well maybe calling him the great white hope, was a shot. Either way everything else has happened an nothing is made up. As for a typical Kyle fan you are sadly mistaken. This weekend at Richmond I saw 3 jr fans arrested and that was just around me. One was throwing m/m’s on the track, well atleast trying to, another grown man also a jr fan, was yelling at a child who was wearing a kyle bush shirt, and the third after the race so upset that Kyle won thought it would be a good idea to use the metal head band on his rented headset to attempt to flatten the tires on Kyles souvenir hauler. LOL LOL LOL all these guys were idiots, which is why they all got arrested. By the way one more FACT for ya, Jr has 18 cups wins and Kyle has 17, Jr has been in the series 5 years longer then Kyle. HMMMMMMM that says alot. Yeah Pee Wee won a race but he still has alot to prove, but based on performance i see a championship closer in his future then i do in jr’s future.[/quote]
well if either is going to get one it better be this year while JJ is off his game.
George,
I agree. Although Jimmy got off to a slow start last year and turns it around. I think two things Are different this year with Jimmy. I think Gordon is in Jimmy’s head, and I Think with other drivers seeing Gordon not so happy with Jimmy they also aren’t cutting Jimmy any slack. An example of this is biffle at dega, biffle seemed to let off the brake and give Jimmy that extra little punt into the wall. I would say based on performance this year alone Gordon has been the most consistent and has performed the best. I’m not a rainbow warrior fan, but I like this new attitude he has.you can tell he wants it and he’s determined to get it and nobody will stand in his way.
I think it is all a big ploy, they were not getting enough media coverage. I am fed up with the company anyway. They accomplished just what they wanted to. This was a story about another driver after all.
I should be more clear in who I am fed up with. It is not anyone’s comments on here, it is the 24 & 48. The media is trying very hard to bring attention to the other 39 drivers on the track. The Nielson ratings must really be down for NASCAR, they don’t even report them any more. TV ratings are very important to the sport. Just look at the schedule for program carriers, people who only have access to local networks are not going to be able to watch the races. Other sports are in more demand. Where are the viewers going?
I agree and think Gordon on the verge of a 5th championship. I’m not a Gordon fan but i do respect his ability and the way he can get in another drivers head. I think we are seeing the old Jeff Gordon most loved to hate. To be honest i really miss seeing the battles him and Dale Sr had on the track almost as much as the ones between Dale and Rusty.
George,
I agree, I hated Gordon but you could never deny his ability. It seems he has become soft over the years and little more layed back. Until this year, there are few drivers these days that have that drive and determination to be the best, seems most guys are points racing, and just out there riding around. Im liking what Im seeing from Gordon and I hope he gets more aggressive cause I think he will be able to do in a way that could influence other drivers to be more aggressive in ways other then just going out and dumping someone.
BB54
I have to agree with you somewhat, I agree ratings are probably down, I myself havent seemed to as interested as I have been in the past. Although I doubt the 24 and 48 deal is fake. For one there hasnt been that much press on it, secondly if they were to create a situation to draw interest or viewers, they would need an event like the 1978 500, something with a clip they can play over and over to get people interest up, Also I doubt they would pick 2 drivers on the same team. Also I dount they would pick 2 nice guys who people would view unlikely to do something, they would get a loose canon like the old smoke who randomly go nuts like smoke did on that photographer back in the day.
Rusty Wallace will tell you Gordon is the master of the bump and run but that does not seem to work as well with these cars.
But back on to the actual topic, I think something will be done with James Finch’s team with in the Hendrick camp to help accommodate the growing stable of drivers Rick is gathering together. As long as they are marketable and can get sponsorship deals I would not be surprised if he could make room for more drivers beside those he already has under contract. SHR can grew and another affiliate team, perhaps Mark Martin owned, could provide 12 seats for Chevy aligned talent.
[quote comment="59094"]I think it is all a big ploy, they were not getting enough media coverage. I am fed up with the company anyway. They accomplished just what they wanted to. This was a story about another driver after all.[/quote]
That story your talking about was dead weeks ago (look at the date it was posted on) we are just expressing our points of view and right now there isnt much to talk about so JJ and JG is our topic of discussion.
I know what you mean too many driver are too willing to take what is handed to them and not reach for that brass ring. A prime example is Lagono he has the talent but needs to grow a pair on the other hand you have BK who has the balls but needs to get more experience and i think in a year or two will be a contender but not right now. My biggest question right now is; what’s going on with Carl? Either his equipment is junk or his head isnt in the game.
[quote comment="59099"]Rusty Wallace will tell you Gordon is the master of the bump and run but that does not seem to work as well with these cars.
But back on to the actual topic, I think something will be done with James Finch’s team with in the Hendrick camp to help accommodate the growing stable of drivers Rick is gathering together. As long as they are marketable and can get sponsorship deals I would not be surprised if he could make room for more drivers beside those he already has under contract. SHR can grew and another affiliate team, perhaps Mark Martin owned, could provide 12 seats for Chevy aligned talent.[/quote]
I think that could be Kasey’s ride for next year possible at JRM but SHR is still a possibility but as far as Mark taking an ownership role i just dont think he wants that so to me JRM makes more sense
[quote comment="59096"]I agree and think Gordon on the verge of a 5th championship. I’m not a Gordon fan but i do respect his ability and the way he can get in another drivers head. I think we are seeing the old Jeff Gordon most loved to hate. To be honest i really miss seeing the battles him and Dale Sr had on the track almost as much as the ones between Dale and Rusty.[/quote]
Dale and Gordon never really had any battles on the track….not anything like dale had with Rusty, DW or Elliott.
What is really funny is how baby bush lover will bash JR on any subject he can! JR WILL NEVER BE FORCED TO LEAVE HENDRICK! HE IS THE NUMBER ONE MONEY MAKER FOR HENDRICK AND HENDRICK IS A BUSINESS MAN! HE NOT AN IDIOT LIKE THE FORMER OWNER OF DEI! HE WANTS TO MAKE MONEY AND THAT MONEY HELPS MAKE THE OTHER TEAMS BETTER. REMEMBER THE CAR BUSINESS IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE.
no it was more like cat and mouse but the point was we need more of that kind of racing again
Anyone that believes money will keep any under-performing driver at Hendrick is living in a fantasy world. While JR may have the biggest take at the merchandise trailers that pie gets cut into lots of pieces. JRs sponsors are not paying any more to Hendrick then are Johnson’s or Gordon’s.
Also the money number published for JR includes his personal endorsement deals that Hendrick gets none of.
Anyone that thinks money alone will keep a driver in a car needs to wake up and start using the gray matter in that thing they normally wear their hats on. Ask Jon Wes and his dad about that.
Now come back with Gordon has not won any more races then JR in the last 2 years and you will be reminded that Gordon has a equity ownership stake and lifetime drivers contract with Hendrick and has better race and points finishes then JR. We will see what happens when his contract is up for renewal.
Other thoughts:
It was not JR leaving DEI that broke that company, it was Sr not being around to keep Teresa from running it into the ground that broke it. She should have let the people hired to operate the company do their jobs. When she started firing people and putting others in jobs they did not know how to do that started the long slow death of DEI. Her business decisions buying Ginn Racing and partnering with Childress on engine and tech development were poor choices too.
As for Rick’s car business the mans companies own dealerships from coast to coast, the car business would have to come to a grinding halt to cause him a cash flow problem.
BOB,
I couldnt agree more, Jr is number one in sales, but that means nothing on tracks. Also at richmond this year I saw 2 less Jr haulers then normal. SO sales must not be up like normal. Hendrick doesnt need to keep building top of the line equipment for mediocre finishes, its a waste of money.
As for Jr leaving DEI, alot of that was Jr, for multiple reasons. He stated he wanted a better chance to win a championship and DEI he didnt have that. Well he is at a team where he does have that chance and still nothing. Ok so he wanted to own part of his fathers company, which he had nothing to do with building. I say Teresa is a genius in letting him go, Jr pinned her as not wanting to invest in the company to give him a championship. Well we see that wasnt the issue. This is all part of Jr’s long line of the blame game. Everything is everyone elses fault. He is out of excuses time to man up and prove if he can drive or not.
Rowdy,
I agree with you for about 95% of that. The only part that I disagree with is the fact that Chip not Teresa is building the company back to contender status. Teresa is best suited to looking pretty and escorting Tyler around, reminding us all of Dale Sr., and counting the money Sr. still brings in every year.
We all know that Jr. is too busy being a Celeb to train, condition, and perform in his sport of choice. It is obviously the truth also judging by the way he reacted when Marty Smith asked that very question.
Jr. and his fans truly have run out of valid excuses and now they try to justify it by comparing him to other drivers that have performed similarly in the same time frame.
Well I see where its easy to blame Teresa but in reality nobody knows what her and Sr’s vision was for the company. Everyone has sat back and felt sorry for Jr for loosing his dad, yet nobody has felt sorry for Kerry. Keli, or Teresa who Sr also meant a great deal to. Im not saying Teresa has made all of the right choices but everyone is speculating oh what she was suppose to do to keep jr there. I agree that Chip is running the show now but she had to do something or that company was done. I think if anyone deserves credit it is Teresa, she was the first and probably only one to stand up to Jr and say NO. She basically told him if you want to win a championship or think you can on another team, well then go do it. SO far neither have done very well. Its a shame the Earnhardt name will also be associated with Jr.
Good points and you are dead on about Teresa and her dealings with her step-son. The person I believe that suffered the most by Sr passing was the young daughter. I do not think many realize the impact Dale Sr had on not only his immediate family but also his extended family, friends, and the community in general.
I hope that perhaps in time Jeff, Kerry’s son, will move up the ranks maybe get in some good equipment and prove that there is still a great deal of race left in the name Earnhardt.
Jr seems to have lost the desire to win which translates into mediocre at best results. I really think he is a victim of all the hype that surrounds him and to some degree his own fans and the media are to blame for the expectations on him.
On another note:
What happened to JJ since the spoiler returned? I noticed more drivers are roughing him up now that Gordon did it to him at Texas. Does anyone think Mark Martin is showing his displeasure with what seems to be coming at Hendrick?
I feel sorry for anyone who losses a loved one. Jr was much closer than Kerry was to Sr. Sr’s daughters were very close to him, there you go babyshrub lover someone said it…..feel better?
Why you have to continue to turn every story into a JR bash is beyond me. Grow up get a life and quite whining.
HMS,
Read up brother. I didn’t turn it into a Jr topic others did and I have commented on it. I understand you hate Kyle and Jr is your man but facts are facts and that you can’t argue. As for SR passing, to say Kerry wasn’t that close to him as if he wasn’t impacted that much by his passing is nuts. A person passed there were a lot of people impacted by that. Friends and family but this sob story the media dwells on for Jr is ridiculous. What about Teresa or Richard. childress they were probably two of the closest to him. Yet the media plays on Jr to get ratings and viewers. Jr fans should be pissed that the media abuses the SR and Jr story every chance they get.
[quote comment="59110"]Well I see where its easy to blame Teresa but in reality nobody knows what her and Sr’s vision was for the company. Everyone has sat back and felt sorry for Jr for loosing his dad, yet nobody has felt sorry for Kerry. Keli, or Teresa who Sr also meant a great deal to. Im not saying Teresa has made all of the right choices but everyone is speculating oh what she was suppose to do to keep jr there. I agree that Chip is running the show now but she had to do something or that company was done. I think if anyone deserves credit it is Teresa, she was the first and probably only one to stand up to Jr and say NO. She basically told him if you want to win a championship or think you can on another team, well then go do it. SO far neither have done very well. Its a shame the Earnhardt name will also be associated with Jr.[/quote]
Do you actually believe what you write? If so your more one sided then you should be. We all know that Teresa didn’t deal with Dale’s other children very well and since DEI was basicly a family business that is what killed it. All you have to do is look at JRM to see Jr is a very capable business man like his father was. It’s all about putting the right people in the right position the same as any other business.
George,
You say we all know that Teresa didnt deal with Dales kids. Well how do you know, you are basing that on information you get from wherever, so unless you actually spent time with family regularly what you are saying is an opinion. This is a typical response from a disgruntled Jr fan, lets all blame Teresa. Nobody had an issue with Teresa before Sr passed, if she was such a bad person. More Jr nation blame game.
As for Jr being capable of running a business. LOL LOL LOL do your research!!!!! In 2009 JR SAID, that Jr motorsports ” was struggling” and was in a situation Jr described as “dire”. As a result Jr brought on Eury Jr, his sister Kelley and Mr. Hendrick as part owners of Jr Motorsports. So before Jr brought aboard help he was not doing very well. Now JRM is doing well now, but I would say that is a direct of a result of being associated with HMS and not because of any thing Jr has done. As matter of fact Jr, Eury Jr and Kelley are equal owners and Mr Hendrick owns the other 50%.
[quote comment="59116"]George,
You say we all know that Teresa didnt deal with Dales kids. Well how do you know, you are basing that on information you get from wherever, so unless you actually spent time with family regularly what you are saying is an opinion. This is a typical response from a disgruntled Jr fan, lets all blame Teresa. Nobody had an issue with Teresa before Sr passed, if she was such a bad person. More Jr nation blame game.
As for Jr being capable of running a business. LOL LOL LOL do your research!!!!! In 2009 JR SAID, that Jr motorsports ” was struggling” and was in a situation Jr described as “dire”. As a result Jr brought on Eury Jr, his sister Kelley and Mr. Hendrick as part owners of Jr Motorsports. So before Jr brought aboard help he was not doing very well. Now JRM is doing well now, but I would say that is a direct of a result of being associated with HMS and not because of any thing Jr has done. As matter of fact Jr, Eury Jr and Kelley are equal owners and Mr Hendrick owns the other 50%.[/quote]
You are quoting media stuff not actual business reports everyone else knows he was just paying back Tony Jr and Kelly for their hard work and dedication and lets not forget that JRM was never supposed to be a full scale business it started out as a hobby for Jr and his friends
Also on Teresa running DEI she didnt make any of the decisions before Sr passed away but when she started making them the team went down hill from there
The proof is in the pudding: Teresa ran DEI into the ground! A company that was very profitable has been merged at least three times sinse jr left. If it were not for SRs sales of merchandise DEI would have nothing. Sr was the business person and that is a fact. Interview after interview Sr said that what Teresa contributed was reading the contracts and knowing them inside out. Now that is something but it is not decision making. Sr was a tough negotiator and he new what his name was worth.
Let me make it simple for you Rowdy: DEI was making money with JR and after JR it lost 75% of it value. Now I am sure you have taken a math course or two and you understand that al least. You don’t like JRs fans and that is fine but Numbers don’t lie.
As far as Hendrick goes he is a business man and he will not let the number one money maker in Nascar go! Look at the numbers involved. Jr has one of the few teams that easily funds itself and makes lots of money. Another driver would have to win 6 or 7 races a year just to complete with the money side of the business. If you have ever run a business then you know that ‘CASH FLOW IS KING” It is all about making money.
George,
I am quoting what Jr himself said. If the owner of the said the company is in dire situation. LOL amazes me how Jr nation will even argue what Jr says. JRM was struggling till he went to Hendricks and brought aboard his sister and cousin. That is a fact spoken from the prodigal son himself. May have been a reward for hard work then again could have been Jr was in over his head and needed help.
[quote comment="59123"]George,
I am quoting what Jr himself said. If the owner of the said the company is in dire situation. LOL amazes me how Jr nation will even argue what Jr says. JRM was struggling till he went to Hendricks and brought aboard his sister and cousin. That is a fact spoken from the prodigal son himself. May have been a reward for hard work then again could have been Jr was in over his head and needed help.[/quote]
Show me the quote! He did an interview last year where he said that JR motor sports had completely pain him back. Do you know what that means?
Jr motorsports had completely PAIN him back. No I dont know what that means. If you meant to say paid him back, then I would assume thats true as well as makes sense. I was not disputing that Jr motosports is not doing now. I was simply saying that Jr is not the business man that George had said he was. This is proof before Jr teamed with other three JRM wasnt doing so well.
Heres the link to the quote, that you requested!
http://www.scenedaily.com/news/articles/nationwideseries/Dale_Earnhardt_Jr_says_struggling_JR_Motorsports_adds_sister_cousin_as_part-owners.html
[quote comment="59125"]Jr motorsports had completely PAIN him back. No I dont know what that means. If you meant to say paid him back, then I would assume thats true as well as makes sense. I was not disputing that Jr motosports is not doing now. I was simply saying that Jr is not the business man that George had said he was. This is proof before Jr teamed with other three JRM wasnt doing so well.
Heres the link to the quote, that you requested!
http://www.scenedaily.com/news/articles/nationwideseries/Dale_Earnhardt_Jr_says_struggling_JR_Motorsports_adds_sister_cousin_as_part-owners.html/quote
Well excuse me babycryier! I misspelled a word! so sorry! At least it was not in all capps like you used to do.
JR is not a good business man? what ever dude…… How much money did you make last year?
Once again your quoting a press release in which anyone can say anything that doesnt make them true and you really should talk to someone about this hate you have for someone you dont even know
I wonder what Brian Vickers “Undisclosed Medical Condition” is really all about.
Did he fail a test or something?
We really need a open discussion forum and more news updates.
HMS,
LOL You prove my point again, once Jr nation is presented with a fact, you turn to personal insults. LOL babycrier. HMS I got a question for you, why dont you provide me the quote where Jr had said JRM had paid him back.
George,
Your right that quote could be wrong or fabricated. Lets be realistic why would any publication say something Jr never said and risk the wrath of Jr nation. Although this is more then likely real this was Jr speaking to the media, this wasnt the media out searching for a story. I do understand what you are saying and I also agree, with that said there are plenty of other stories posted about other drivers and people associated with other drivers that people dont care for and soon as its posted its the gospel and everyone say its true. Then when its jr and one somewhat negative thing is written its automatically false or made up.
As for the hate of Jr. Jr isnt the one is dislike its his fans. They have an unrealistic concept of what hes done or capeable of doing. As for me hating someone I dont even know, that is no different then the members of Jr nation hating all drivers but jr. Before Gordon was at HMS and Gordon broke Sr’s record and they were throwing cans on the track or the Jr fans I saw at Richmond a few weeks ago getting arrested for throwing M/M’s on the track cause they hate Kyle, or the drunken jr fan yelling at a child cause he a 18 shirt on, or the idiots trying to slash the tires on the 18 souvenir hauler. I may voice an opinion and back it up with facts, but never would I act the immature, and those are the people that need to go talk to someone.
[quote comment="59129"]HMS,
LOL You prove my point again, once Jr nation is presented with a fact, you turn to personal insults. LOL babycrier. HMS I got a question for you, why dont you provide me the quote where Jr had said JRM had paid him back.
George,
Your right that quote could be wrong or fabricated. Lets be realistic why would any publication say something Jr never said and risk the wrath of Jr nation. Although this is more then likely real this was Jr speaking to the media, this wasnt the media out searching for a story. I do understand what you are saying and I also agree, with that said there are plenty of other stories posted about other drivers and people associated with other drivers that people dont care for and soon as its posted its the gospel and everyone say its true. Then when its jr and one somewhat negative thing is written its automatically false or made up.
As for the hate of Jr. Jr isnt the one is dislike its his fans. They have an unrealistic concept of what hes done or capeable of doing. As for me hating someone I dont even know, that is no different then the members of Jr nation hating all drivers but jr. Before Gordon was at HMS and Gordon broke Sr’s record and they were throwing cans on the track or the Jr fans I saw at Richmond a few weeks ago getting arrested for throwing M/M’s on the track cause they hate Kyle, or the drunken jr fan yelling at a child cause he a 18 shirt on, or the idiots trying to slash the tires on the 18 souvenir hauler. I may voice an opinion and back it up with facts, but never would I act the immature, and those are the people that need to go talk to someone.[/quote]
Yes Rowdy i am a member of Jr Nation but i am a nascar fan 1st and foremost and if he falls out of a race or has problems then there are others to watch like Smoke, Truex, JG, JJ and even BK just to name a few like i said before i like alot of differant drivers for 1 reason or another and btw what i meant was that JR said those things to the media because he didnt want his family looked at in a bad light and from day 1 he wanted the family involved in JRM
Why does it appear that Jr has become the Elliott Sadler of the Chevy camp?
Jr came down pit road and lost more laps for some imagined problem with his car. After he left pit road the race commentators said during this pit stop Rick came down to his pit and debriefed with the team. After the pit crew did nothing to the car Jr returned to the race and said the car is fine now. Seems like Jr needed a break from the race around lap 200, I guess he just doesn’t have the stamina to run a full cup race any longer. I wonder what was said to Jr that they did not air. I, also, liked the banter between Jr and Lance McGrew they aired during the prerace show.
Uh oh number the 18 gets cup win number 18. Also moves up to 2nd in points. JGR cars looking strong.
Did both the former drivers of the 18 get to start and park or was it just the 1 that won that car numbers only championship under JGR?
Dover-30th place
Points-16th place
AMA Motorcycle races-FREE National Guard Jr. t-shirts.
So much for t-shirt sales.
George,
I still don’t get why he would say how horribly Jrm was doing if its not true. Then why would he allow family to join a failing business unless he thought they could make a difference. Which appears they have. He needed support nothing wrong with that, but this is an example of Jr nation defending there fearless leader even disputing what he says to avoid him looking bad. He said it, why does it need to be reinterpreted by his fans.
Huge Thread at NA$CAR dot com about JR and his inability to drive. It started commenting when it was less then 60 comments, it is now almost 800 comments and a most of JR Nation is crying over the JR bashing. Several people have had comments deleted for unknown reasons and the natives are getting restless. Rumor is JR will get another crew chief but many of us are trying to figure out who would possibly want the job. I can’t think of 1 crew chief that would consider it in the cup garage and many of the NNS guys want no part of JR.
I can’t believe he pulled into the pit on Sunday claiming a problem with the steering that no one could find. After Rick got involved and told him nothing was wrong and to drive the car he went out and turned decent lap times but his temper tantrum and pit road snack and juicebox break already put him too many laps down to make a difference. The reports say that after the race HMS crew and engineers looked over the entire car and could not find the imagined mystery issue with the car. Maybe it is carbon monoxide, maybe it is bad drugs, maybe too much partying Saturday night. What ever it is it seems to be in JRs head and not the equipment.
He better start selling more merchandise or he won’t get any team to sign him after his HMS contract expires. He might have to move his team up to cup to stay in a cup car at his current performance level.
I believe it was a tantrum over the splitter hitting the track
It was a tantrum alright but not over the splitter hitting the track. He thought something on the car broke. He would be able or should be able to tell if the splitter was dragging the ground. What it was is someone who doesnt know how to drive a car that isnt absolutely perfect, it was off and he couldnt hang on to it.
[quote comment="59150"]It was a tantrum alright but not over the splitter hitting the track. He thought something on the car broke. He would be able or should be able to tell if the splitter was dragging the ground. What it was is someone who doesnt know how to drive a car that isnt absolutely perfect, it was off and he couldnt hang on to it.[/quote]
lol if jr couldnt hang onto it it was pretty bad and if you watched as much racing as you claim you should know it
LOL Please your giving Jr way to much credit, yes ive seen him hold onto a loose car but thats usually when he’s 10-12 seconds off the pace/ Ive never seen him handle a car on the ragged edge. Well I will say that move he made on the last lap of the 500 was pretty impressive, but thats about it.
The move i was talking about was when he did a 360 on purpose to bring out the caution but got busted because he bragged to Tony Jr over the radio
Let’s face it the race at was Dover was tough driving that poorly handling Top Tier car that most drivers would give their wife and children to get behind the wheel of. Poor Jun-Bug got tired earlier in the race then he normally does and needed to stop for a Big “MO” candy bar (snack with his name on it and he gets a percentage of, remember it is all about the money) and a Juice Box. Of course he did not check with his Crew Chief first to make sure the crew was not eating Ice Cream before he pitted and it cost him 7 laps. Now the really bad part is they looked at the car both in the pit and after the race and found absolutely nothing wrong with it. Why is this bad? Because if there was nothing wrong with the car there must be something wrong with the driver. So they checked the driver they had a physical done and he checked out ok, but then they had his head checked out and to no-ones surprise they found nothing there either.