Waltrip: Make California a restrictor plate track-UPDATE 2
Quote selected text Published February 28th, 2008 in NASCAR News
UPDATE 2:
A senior spokesman for track operator International Speedway Corp. said Wednesday that there are no plans to turn Auto Club Speedway into a restrictor-plate configuration or otherwise modify the layout of the 2.0-mile facility that hosts two NASCAR race weekends annually.
ISC owns the track and ultimately would be the entity approving and paying for any track changes. But none are forthcoming, an ISC official confirmed. Wes Harris, ISC’s senior director, corporate and investor communications, said Wednesday there are no plans for such an extreme and costly makeover. In fact, Harris said, it isn’t even in the discussion phase, nor is it likely to be.
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UPDATE:
Gillian Zucker, president of Auto Club Speedway, believes reconfiguring the 2-mile Fontana, Calif. oval into a restrictor-plate track is an idea worth considering seriously.
“I love it,” Zucker said Tuesday. “It’s a game-changer. Michael Waltrip told me his idea about it Saturday night. It was funny at first, but I thought, ‘Sure. Why not?’”
Restrictor plates, flat pieces of metal with small holes that are placed over the carburetors, reduce horsepower and slow down the cars. They are used at Daytona and Talladega, producing some of NASCAR most exciting and most dangerous racing.
Zucker said they are going to rebuilt part of the racing surface to repair the water seepage problems (commonly known as weepers) that arose last weekend. Heavy rain caused water to push up through the seams in the turns.
“If we are going to tear it up anyway to fix the drainage, let’s make it a lot more interesting,” Zucker said. “It could be a very dramatic thing for us.”
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“They will never win against Las Vegas [Motor Speedway],” Waltrip said of the Fontana facility. “So build up the corners, 32 to 33 degrees banking, and make this a restrictor-plate track.”
Wow. That’s quite a proposal. It catches you by surprise at first, but once Waltrip had a chance to explain his logic, it’s easy to understand his point.
His argument above is that Las Vegas Motor Speedway is a much nicer place and has far more to offer fans than the 2-mile oval 50 miles east of Los Angeles.
So if race fans are going to pick and choose, why not travel another 200 miles and attend the Vegas race one week later?
Auto Club Speedway needs something to set it apart from other tracks in the region.
“Think about Sonoma and Phoenix and Vegas,” Waltrip said. “Sonoma has amenities and it’s a cool road course. It’s different. Phoenix … a fun, little short track that people adore so much. Vegas, obviously.
“But you come here and it’s sort of caught in the middle. We could come to the West Coast to a purpose-built plate track, the first one that’s ever been done that way. We could put on a heck of a race.”
Clearly, Waltrip has thought this out. The man deserves a spot on the International Speedway Corp. board of directors.
“That’s what I would do here,” Waltrip said. “The stereotype of a restrictor plate being bad, that’s over.
“They might have to stretch it out to 2½ miles to make the draft work, but I would put these banks up right now and say, ‘We’re going to build the first-ever track meant for restrictor plates.’ To me, that’s the answer.”
More at ESPN.com
- Newman says COT too fast without restrictor plate
- Gordon set to tie another Earnhardt record
- Sprint Cup teams to use smaller restrictor plate at Talladega
- Was Daytona the last restrictor plate race?
- Burton says California doesn’t need to change track
I actually think this is a great idea.
You can’t deny that the plate races are really entertaining, and with the new car being alot safer and easier to handle, wrecks don’t seem to be as much of an issue.
Interesting.
Thoughts??
Im ready for any solutions to the boring races that have been happening at California
If your going to steal dates from 2 of the most historic tracks the series has known,(darlington and Rockingham)
then at least put on a good show.
Sagging attendance and low TV ratings have almost
forced NASCAR to change something in California- or fail
not a bad idea… but i think if they really want to set it apart and they mont go back to the rock, they should cover it in dirt
Sounds interesting.
But Kenneth… I haven’t actually hear that the new cars are “easier” to drive. From what I have heard drivers say is they are more work to drive, but ARE safer. They don’t just whip around on a side draft or get so damged smacking a wall that the fenders have to be pulled out. But, to actually hear they are easier?? I missed that one I guess.
The restrictor plate on Fontana though… Wow, that actually might do something with that track,. Or maybe they should cut the track down a little, not let it be so wide and cut the length of the track or the race slightly and people won’t be so…. bored? Just a thought.
jr88fan wrote:
Actually, you’re right. I meant to say that the drivers seem to be to save this car when it gets outta shape as opposed to the old car. But yeah, they are a bit more of a handful.
Personally I don’t like plate racing, but then again I’m a short track fan… l0l
I say instead of putting plates on the cars, make them run a Smaller Carb, or smaller engines, or even go to a 6 cylinder engines.
There are better ways to make the cars racier without using a plate.
If they are going to redo the track, make it something like Richmond, a Fast short track that provides lots of side by side racing, and always sells out.
Or better yet, do something unique.. Anybody ever hear of Trenton Speedway? It was a 1.5 mile track with kind of a kidney bean shape to it with a 20 or 30 degree dogleg on the back stretch towards the left, and a wider turn 3 & 4 layout than turns 1 & 2.
Oh and does anybody else find it kind of ironic that Mikey has 4 wins all of which have come at 2.5 mile High Banked Plate Tracks….? Hmmm I wonder why he wants Cali to be turned into one…. l0l
That dogleg at Trenton went towards the right not the left…. oops l0l
Andrew wrote:
I’m tired of hearing the same old thing (Darlington & Rockingham). Not all NASCAR fans live out in the
east coast. I LOVE going to Fontana to watch the races and yes I go to both! Low attendance?? Like I said
I go to both of them and they’re is a lot of fans out there when I go. They’re everywhere…the fanzone,
infield, the nice shady stands where there are tvs. So just get over it & let us have our share of NASCAR!
That’s my Mikey - always lookin’ out for the fans! This is a great idea - it would definitely make the races at Fontana more interesting and would likely fill alot more seats!
About the whole “Darlington & Rockingham” argument. Remember Cali, ISC, and/or NASCAR did not cost Rockingham, Texas Speedway did with the Ferko Lawsuit.
Amen - Nascar in California! I too live in California - do not care for road courses - and
Vegas is just to darn expensive. AND with having a 13 yr old that goes to races with me -
Vegas is not ideal. We go to both Fontana races and it is our races that we are able to
attend. The two guaranteed trips we take each year.
It might not be the most exciting racing to those watching TV but to those in the stands
and that get to walk in the pits - it is OUR bit of feeling, hearing and smelling Nascar!
Change the track - do whatever - but leave the racing here. I have lots of race fan friends
who attend Fontana. Nascar is not just an East Coast sport.
Thank you Kenneth!!! I’ve been arguing this fact all weekend! Not everyone can go to East Coast tracks and those of us on the West Coast would hate to have a track “taken away” just to be added on the Eastside!!! I could go to Phoenix, and I have. I could go to Vegas, and I have, but sometimes I just want to go to the easiest track to get to…
Great call Mikey Waltrip! Restrictor plate races are fun to watch and would hopefully deter some of the Fontana Haters!
I think this is a very interesting proposal.
I like the idea.
And whether you like plate races or not, at this
point, anything seems better than what California Speedway
has to offer at the moment..
I hope they attempt it.
Didn’t they run the spacer in the Nationwide race? That is pretty much a plate, except instead of 4 small holes you had one big hole (but the total area of the holes was still the same) And it did not make the race any more exciting, or closer.
Heck look at the COT plate race at Dega last year, 99% of the people that watched it thought it was the most boring race ever, because they only raced when it mattered which was the last 10-15 miles.
Or look at the plate race at New Hampshire in September of 2000. One leader for the entire race, also a very boring race.
Keep in mind that Cali was a Roger Penske track, and he didn’t build his tracks for Stock cars, he built them so they’d put on good Indy car races, and all Penske Built tracks are like that.
Does the track need to be changed? Yes
Does it need to be a 2+mile Plate track? No
How about they make the track layout like the old Ontario Motor Speedway…. For fans that haven’t heard of that, it looked like Indy, but was wider and faster, and held the California 500 race… which ironically enough was held on Labor Day (yes it was an Indycar race, but still it)
FONTANA SUPERSPEEDWAY
HECK YES ! ! ! ! ! BRING IT ON ! ! ! ! ! NO MORE BOREING CALI RACES; BUT THE SEASON IS OPENED BY TWO GREAT PLATE RACES. THEN THE SPRINT FOR THE CUP SHOULD HAVE 2 PLATE RACES AND 2 ROADIES AND 2 SHORT TRACKS AND 2 INTERMEDIATES. MAKE IT ONLY 8 RACES LONG; AND CROWN A REGULAR SEASON CHAMP AND THEN A POST SEASON SPRINT CHAMP ! THINK ABOUT IT; ITS A GREAT IDEA ! ! ! ! !
Wow… Umm yeah whats with all the capital letters?… There is no need to shout…. l0l
fisha; a spacer increases horsepower; Its doesnt block any airflow so thus none is loss; it just cuts down on inner engine air turbulence. Think McFly ! Why don’t you go back to the EA boards Fisha? jeez.
Actually the Tapered spacers which they ran do decrease horsepower.
And why should I go back to those boards, I’m a registered user here…. unlike some of you….
l0l
“Guest” Which just accidently wasn’t logged in it sounds like. =)
“”"Think McFly ! Why don’t you go back to the EA boards Fisha? jeez.”"”
That was the best statement I have heard all day! LMAO
Kenneth… I wasn’t trying to correct you. I just heard it that way and thought when you said that, that I heard wrong. It does seem that they are saying that the cars are harder to control then they used to be. But those safety issues really seem to be panning out .I mean look at hte other day when Newman slapped the wall. In the old rides, he would maybe turned down on the track and cause a bigger wreck after, and have had to pit for sure, pull his fenders out, new tires, etc and lose a lap or two just get get back out there. But after he hit, he just kept on going, so unlike what we’ve witnessed in years past. That really was showing what those cars have for the changes other then “looking” at the body style. I kinda like seeing that because I don’t like the body styles now, but if this is the plus, I can live with that.
Fisha695 wrote:
They don’t race at California at all. They spread out way
too much. Not to mention the banking will give them
the packs. The Nationwide race was on flat banking.
Well obviously not flat, but no where near 31 degrees.
And 99%? C’mon now. We know what you’re
trying to say, but lets be realistic.
Ok 98%. Everybody on all the racing forums I frequent, as well as the real racers I know all thought that it was one of the most boring races ever.
To me Big Track racing is about the fastest car going out there and running the set number of laps, if it makes it to the end then it wins, if it doesn’t then the next fastest car will win or the car that happens to be in the right place at the right time. It is not about Pack Racing, all Pack racing is, is follow the leader.
Many fans consider NASCAR’s “Golden Age” to be in the 60s & 70s, well go back and look at those races, they didn’t pack race, they raced for the win, by as many car lengths/laps you could get on the guy in second. That is what racing on Big tracks was about in all forms of racing, and that is what it should still be about.
Look at all the people that complain when NASCAR throws a “mystery debris” cautions, well all those cautions are doing is the same thing that Plates do, and that is create artificial excitement.
Also people complain about the Cookie Cutter tracks. The way those tracks came to be is because at the time they provided great racing, so they were built. Now we have all pretty much come to be tired of them. Well When the same thing starts happening and we end up with all these 2.5 Mile 30some degree banking Super Speedways (which if Cali does it, more then likely other tracks will look to follow, remember this sport is Monkey See Monkey do). The fans will still complain that there are two many races like that, and all these “cookie cutter 2.5 Mile 30some degree banking Super Speedways”. See what I’m getting at? If not I’ll tell you. l0l I’m getting at, Too much of a ‘good’ thing always turns out to be a bad thing.
As much as people love Dega/Tona, they also love Bristol, Richmond, Dover, North Wilkes-Borough, Rockingham, and Darlington as much if not more.
So how about they do something like this. Take the Richmond layout, add a 1/4 to 3/8 mile to the track, make the banking closer to bristol in the turns and tri-oval, and then have the back straight banked like Bristol (or maybe Dover). Make the track about a lane, maybe two wider then Richmond (don’t want it too wide, but don’t want it too narrow). Put the start finish line either coming into, or going out of the tri-oval, that way you either have to race out of turn 4, or race deeper towards turn 1.
rip it up and build a bigger bristol! no but seriously if california went restrictor plate i would once again buy tickets!!! i moved from cali to arizona 5 yrs ago and have season tix for PIR.. i havent been to a cali race since…i feel if i can actually fall asleep at a race i have no need to go anymore. i guarantee restrictor plate racing at cali would keep me awake when im there for sure!
This is a great idea! The CA Speedway is ‘caught in the middle’ and this is just what is needed to make the CA Speedway stand out. They also need to change the dates of the races, but that is another topic.
If they are going to have to tear up the track, do it right and make it specifically a restrictor plate race which will increase the excitement of the fans (which is the point) with side-by-side racing.
I am not a fan of the Fontana location, but that isn’t — realistically — going to change, so making this change to the track and improving the marketing of the race will give the CA Speedway an identity and some needed momentum.
ole mickey just wants to be able to compete…he has never WON anything other than a restrictor plate race…never even came close to anything else…and he never will..hes a waste of drivin talent…i mean hell..the guy cant even make sure his cars not gonna leak oil before the race even starts…what a loser…just retire mikey…PLEASE YOU SUCK TERRIBLY
Darrell he has won a bunch of other races on tracks that were not plate tracks.
Check it out, ever starting/finishing position for every start he had in the top 3 series.
http://www.racing-reference.info/driver?id=waltrmi01
If it livens up the california race I’m all for it. California Speedway (oops Auto Club Speedway {Does that sound stupid to anyone else?}) is the track I dread when the schedule rolls around to it. I have not missed a cup race since Auguts of 2003 but when last weekends race rolled around I had my bosses schedule me to work so I could miss it, and what happens? It gets rained out so I end up watching it anyways and what a boring race it was once monday came. A boring track like California definately could use something to excite the fans into wanting to attend. Of all the tracks I personally believe that Auto Club Speedway spends the most money trying to get people to attend than any other track…maybe a restrictor plate track would solve their problem. I think that Mikey is on to something with this.
Yes the race is so boring and there is never any passing that is why “a total of 33 lead changes took place during the Auto Club 500. The previous record was 30.”
Racing is not about side by side action, Racing is about the fastest car getting to the finish line first.
Remember the TV coverage is part of the reasons most races seem boring. When they only focus on certain drivers, you don’t get to see the side by side racing that goes on further back in the pack.
I have been going to Fontana for about 4 years now….and I do agree something needs to be done to “liven” up the race……. and actually the best racing of the weekend is the truck race. The cup and nationwide cars get too spread out. If they want to sell out tickets again they need to do something why not give the restrictor plate idea a shot!!! it for sure wont hurt anything!!
NASCAR in California said:
“I’m tired of hearing the same old thing (Darlington & Rockingham). Not all NASCAR fans live out in the
east coast. I LOVE going to Fontana to watch the races and yes I go to both! Low attendance?? Like I said
I go to both of them and they’re is a lot of fans out there when I go. They’re everywhere…the fanzone,
infield, the nice shady stands where there are tvs. So just get over it & let us have our share of NASCAR!”
I agree, except I don’t think that NASCAR should have pulled the plug on Rockingham all together. Instead, they should have just kept it at one race. I fully understand fans all over the country, and I agree with providing all of us with races at tracks near us. However, there are certain tracks that should not lose dates completely. Rockingham is one of them, and certainly Darlington (which does still have their one race). I know the reason people were not going to Rockingham, it was due to the weather, the time of year the race was held. The racing there was always good and the fans and drivers alike loved going there. I think the way it should be done is to only race at one race at each track, except for certain tracks, which can be re-visited during the chase. That way, Rockingham can get a date back, and you won’t have multiple races at the same track within a short time period (Pocono).
Does anybody agree with this?
And as far as California goes, by all means, they should do whatever they think they need to do to make better racing. Personally, I would like to see more short track racing, but if they want to turn it into a restrictor plate track, the I guess that would work too. As long as the racing gets better, I’ll watch it.
Mikey had a GREAT idea there. The man is always thinking! Let me just throw this out there for you fans in Cali. I TOTALLY get where you’re coming from, BUT….if they need to re-do the track because of the weepers anyway, why not make it even better by making it a restrictor plate race? That would be even MORE fun to go to then the current race, dontcha think?
Dustin, NASCAR had to pull out of Rockingham because of the Ferko Lawsuit. As long as that track was an ISC track NASCAR could no longer hold a race there.
I still think it should be a Short Track instead of a Plate track. Think about it, Bristol, Richmond, Martinsville, Dover, Darlington, New Hampshire ALL Sell out each race they have, and they all provide great side by side racing.
And something to remember, If they rebuild it into a Purpose Built Plate Track (Which has never been done) Chances are it’ll be more like Dega, and less like Tona. Wide, Smooth, and not a handling track. Now remember how boring the Dega COT race was because of it being a Smooth track, really most of the drivers just rode around in the back until the last 10-15 laps, and then they actually started to race.
There is a reason that Bristol is sold out for years to come, but you can always get walk-up tickets to plate races.
Fisha, I understand what your saying about Rockingham, but what do you think about the rest of what I was saying? And I do think that they should go back to Rockingham, set aside all the bull crap and just go back at a decent summer or spring date, when the weather is better there. Anyway, I’m looking forward to hearing more about what you and others think about the rest of what I was saying.
No I don’t agree with you, because I live about 15 minutes from Pocono and would not be upset at all if they raced there 52 weeks a year… l0l
However I do see what you mean by your theory and I have often thought a similar thing. I’d rather have 36 races at 36 different places, then 36 races at 18 or so tracks like we have now.
I’d be more then willing to give up a Pocono date if Nazareth got it, or that new track they are building in NJ gets it, or even a track on in Western PA gets it. (BTW Pocono won’t lose a date for awhile, as its in NASCAR biggest population density area or something like that its says in the fan guide. Something about the average fan will drive 300 miles to see a race, and with NYC and Philly so close to Pocono blah blah blah… )
Since they are not going to be going to 36 different tracks any time soon, I think it’d make a lot of sense to run different configurations of the tracks they go to more then once (if possible) Most tracks have some kind of road course layout, so I think NASCAR should race on them. For Example Daytona, the first race would be the 500, and the second race would be a Road Course race, the could run on one of the Pocono road courses for the second race, and even New Hampshire has a Road Course.
Also another thing that needs to be done is the Nationwide and Truck series need to go to more different tracks then the Cup series does. And both series need to be promoted as what they are (or in the case of Nationwide what it should be). The Truck series while the 3rd tier NASCAR series, it is the top Super-Truck racing series in North America if not the world, and it needs to be promoted that way.
I didn[t get to see the cali race, I was driving up by frisco, but you all say that the races are boring. I can’t agree with you more. But the way to put racing back in the picture is to force the drivers to race for position during the race. Jeff and Jimmie and others lay back until all the others have used up their cars and then they mossy up to take the lead and win, and collect the 185 points and become the points leaders……. I say, devise a points system that awards points for position while the race is being run. Like, the car running in first each lap gets 1 point for each lap. the car in 10th place gets 10 points each time he crosses the line in 10th place, and those slackers laying back in 30th to 40 place, well guess what, they would get 30 or 40 points for each lap they cross the finish line in that position. I can guareentee you that you would see everyone trying to be in first place. Also, as it stands now, points are awarded for position at the end of the race, so the season winner has the highest number of points is champ. The way I suggest, it would reverse, the driver with the lowest number of points would be the champ, because he , she, or it, had ran in the highest position the most often. Think about it, if the driver in first ran in first for say a 200 lap race, he would have 200 points. If Jeff ran in 30th for say 150 laps, he would have 4500 points, plus the lap points needed to go up front. Two races like that and he would not be champ. AS Ya’ll said racing is ment to be racing, not laying back to pick up a win when all the good cars wreck out…..
I have mixed feelings on restrictor plate racing with the COT.
Daytona was boring until the what? last 30 laps or so?
Lets face it.. California’s track is boring, a restrictor plate will make close racing but is it going to make the race exciting or like the Daytona this year and only have the end of the race interesting.
The reason why i like short track racing is because it seems to have excitement throughout the whole race, not just the last X amount of laps. For California to bring their numbers up, i think a smaller track would be good. Let the people come to the race and be on their feet during the whole race.
Then the west coast can have a short track in California and have a nice 1.5 track in Las Vegas (i do believe it is a 1.5 mile track.. if im wrong, sorry)
That’s my opinion on things
-Chris
I never thought I’d see a driver wanting another restrictor plate track, but after spending hours watching Fontana on T.V., I think Mikey has a great idea. Hopefully they won’t give Fontana two dates and screw one of the tracks that helped make NASCAR what it is today.
Please Misters France and Helton, if you go to two races at Fontana, add it to the Cup schedule and go to 37 races.
Thanks,
Drive Safe and Sober………
POCONO IS THE WORST TRACK ON THE CIRCUIT, IT HAS THE WORST FACITITIES, EVERY THING IS BLACK AND WHITE INCLUDING THE ROCKS AROUND THERE AND THE OWNERS DOC AND HIS DAUGHTER ARE THE WORST TRACK OWNER LEFT WHO OWN A PRIVATE TRACK. THE EXIT OFF 80 NEEDS TO BE PAVED BECAUSE THE POTHOLES WOULD MAKE YOU THINK YOU WERE AT THE BAJA 1000 AND THE FOOD AT WOODYS BAR AND MURPHYS LOFT SUCK. THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT POCONO IS NICKS LAKE HOUSE AND SHENNIGANS. OTHER THAN THAT POCONO HAS SUCKED SINCE THE 70S SINCE USAC WAS THERE, AND LETS NOT FORGET THE DEER ON THE TRACK AND ALL THE RAIN IN JUNE . WHAT A MUDHOLE.
Fisha…
i couldnt careless about michaels wins in the other series…they dont matter as you have said so many times about dale jr winning the 98-99 busch titles…michael has 4 wins in CUP competition his ENTIRE career..u dont beleive me? here right off nascar.coms driver profiles…read it, live it, love it and shut up…
http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mwaltrip00/cup/
it clearly states on there he has 4 SUPERSPEEDWAY WINS…not any other track…and those were with DEI when they had the best RP equipment..and not to mention DALE JR pushed mikey to EVERY SINGLE one of those wins…so you want to bring up facts and u just got powned…so shut ur trap seriously no one on here really cares what you have to say….
2003 EA SPORTS 500 - Talladega
2003 Daytona 500
2002 Pepsi 400
2001 Daytona 500
there is a whopping list of Mikeys CUP wins..which are what matters..
WALTRIP SUCKS…now u see why he wants to make fontana restrictor plate? my point exactly…just shut up
Dave Exner wrote:
Umm that track has had two races for a few years now…..
CALIFORNIA ALREADY HAS 2 DATES, THATS WHERE OUR BELOVED DARLINGTON WHEN TOO.
another thing to add… MIKEY has NEVER finished in the top 10 in CUP points his entire career either…he sucks..plain and simple and i know im not the only one that thinks this..
jimmie johnson leads more laps per season than mikey has lead his entire career….give me a break…24 years…and 4 wins? PATHETIC
Howie motorsports photography wrote:
Yeah but the thing is the track has nothing to do with the highway, and the restaurants around the track. The highway is Penndot, and the restaurants… Well stop being lazy and make your own dang food. As far as the everything is black and white? Are you talking about the paint scheme of the track? If so what does it matter what color the roof of the garage or the bathrooms or the walls are painted. I’d rather have Black and white the that ugly yellow at lowes last year, or the ugly blue at Phoenix and now Fontana.
As far as the deer… You’ll notice that almost every track that is not built in the middle of the city (like most of them are) will have animal problems, and lets not forget the seagulls at Daytona. And as far as the rain. I’d rather live in this area with all the rain then live down south where they are running out of water
And lets not forget Daytona, and Bristol and almost every other track on the surface have had to deal with rain.
darrell wrote:
I was being sarcastic
What part of my first reply in here where I said “Oh and does anybody else find it kind of ironic that Mikey has 4 wins all of which have come at 2.5 mile High Banked Plate Tracks….? Hmmm I wonder why he wants Cali to be turned into one…. l0l” do you not comprehend?
And I just got “powned” what are you 12? “powned” is not even a word in the English (or any other) language, so if you are going to try to insult somebody at least do it with real words next time…… What does “powned” mean? Oh thats right NOTHING because its not even a word…..
Where did you own me? I was never for sale, so how can you own me? And actually I think you are the one that is in violation of the blog rules so if anybody should be blocked for posting on this site it is you. One thing you will always notice about me is I play by the rules, I may play borderline, but I play by the rules, whereas you do not seem capable of that.
Oh and BTW in case you did not notice, I reply to posts in the order that they are posted.
powned is another word for getting owned incase you didnt know…its slang..which is not in the dictionary either…and if u felt such a way of waltrip then you shoul dhave never even commented on my behalf and trying to say mikey has won on such and such in OTHER series..when you have clearly said in the past Busch Series means nothing..or was i absent for that article pertaining to dale jrs nationwide penalty this year…i guess i was…
im sure 90% of the people on here would love to have you banned and there would be no contest
Yeah, Fisha, I do agree with what you said about when they do return to certain tracks, run the other configuration (road course). I think we both have good points and that somebody with NASCAR should give these ideas consideration, though I doubt they even read this site or any other site like this. I don’t think that NASCAR really makes any attempt at getting imput from the fans. However, if I am indeed wrong, someone from NASCAR should let me/us know. But I think a change is in order, and not a change in rules or safety or anything like that, it’s time to change the schedule. I think NASCAR fans as a whole are tired of the same old thing. Yes, we do enjoy most, if not all of the tracks currently run, but I know that I, and I’m sure most other fans, want to see more racing at different locations. And more road courses would be a nice change as well. I love oval tracks, but I think the road courses would add more excitment and require more skill from drivers to earn a Cup title. However it can work, the schedule does need to change. I know my ideas, and Fisha’s ideas both sound pretty good and can be used in conjuction with other ideas. Anyway, those are just my thoughts.
And as far as the people on here bitching (and I’m sorry to the editor and whomever else it may affend, but’s it’s the only word that fits right now), who cares. This site is for people to dicuss thier opinions and thoughts on the stories written. If you can’t handle someone else’s opinion maturely, then maybe you yourself are the ones who should not be posting. But, as I said before, that’s just my opinion, my thoughts.