I wonder if VIckers will get the new 100 point, $100k, 6 race crew chief suspension also? I think if it was caught like Jr and the Hendrick cars before it even got on the track I think he would. Since it obviously passed once to get on the track and something changed after it was qualified will they let the penality slide and just leave it as DNQ?

i agree that yellows shouldn’t count for racing. however, if that is ever a rule in NASCAR, the races should DEFINITELY be shortened. i’d stab my eyes out, or change the channel, because that would make races way too long.

hahaha, Also i was thinking that maybe its because the violation was found after qualification time.

Who know’s who cares!

Go Jimmie#48 Lowes Team!!

In Vicker’s case he was outside of the top 35 in owner points and that is why he failed to make the field in retrospect. NASCAR has been consistent with this ruling for a long time. It’s initially hard to wrap your head around (I know, I used to cry foul myself) and another byproduct of the silly provisional system. It does make sense considering how that the provisionals are awarded once you figure it all out though.

BTW… I tend to root for Toyota’s success considering of the manufacturers they’re the only one continually adding onto their U.S. production with new plants stateside meaning more domestic jobs (and they get admirable pay and benefits and in many cases are treated better than those working at UAW plants, they generally have more input in the production process… it was the Japanese system after all that Saturn in many ways modeled their production philosophy around, one that’s considered more humanitarian in many ways), whereas the rest are moving more and more production outside of the U.S. whether to Canada, Mexico, or across the pond.

I also, owning a Scion tC, think Toyota makes a heck of a car regardless of where it’s built. A Canadian or Mexican built GM, Ford, or Chrysler isn’t any better for the American workforce than a Japanese built Scion; but if the thing is built solid and reliable and doesn’t eat into my pocket expenses as much… it’s better for at least one American (me) in the long run as it saves on repair bills. It’s not the executives that make the $ nor the location of the main headquarters that classifies whether a company is American. It’s the # of workers that work hard in a blue collar sense and are rewarded adequately for their work and that reside in this good ol’ United States that are the true hallmark of whether a maker is “U.S. American” or not. It’s ultimately what is best for your bottomline in the end though. As a two-time former owner of GM products and coming from a GM family… it was time for a change, a change for something more reliable and that suited my needs. Much as I liked the Cobalt SS 2.4L coupe, it’s nowhere near as well built nor appealing to me as my tC.

Bottomline… there’s no bias in me against Toyota, hence the diatribe from above to rationalize my point. I’m no less sickened by the lack of a heftier penalty on the 48 bunch than what they got considering the sheer # of times Chad (an Illini like myself) and the gang were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. They ended up with the same penalty as the 24 and 8 teams with the CoT and yet… after as many times as they’ve been busted for cheating (intentional each time or not) and the past precedents that NASCAR has been under to increase the fine proportionately to the # of times the offense has occurred (going back well into the Earnhardt Sr. era before we hear people whining about “NASCAR is turning this into IROC… blah, blah, blah”), the 48 got hit with a slap on the wrist in comparison to what they should’ve received. I hold more of a qualm over the 48 CoT cheating incident of cheating and the Kurt Busch slap on the wrist penalty, but I don’t question this ruling on the 83.

It’s a shame that the Red Bull team didn’t make the race with Vickers, but that’s just the breaks though. I look for a lot of things to come from this team going forward as I personally think of the Toyota teams in Cup, they’re easily the best operation of the bunch with the right amount of talent to get them to the top quickly, esp. considering it’s their first season of Cup and their performances are already right there or better than BDR, a team that’s been around and established for umpteen years. Doug Richert was a huge loss for Roush, much moreso IMHO than the loss of Pat Tryson (also a blow), and I think it’s going to show more and more as Vickers and Allmendinger slowly gel. I do think Vickers is a bit cocky… but there ain’t no shame in the game if you can back it up. I believe, without question, that he will.