Vickers disqualified from New Hampshire race for car violation
Quote selected text Published June 29th, 2007 in NASCAR News
Brian Vickers’ #83 Team Red Bull Toyota failed post-qualifying inspection Friday afternoon at New Hampshire International Raceway, knocking the team out of the Lenox Industrial Tools 300 field and giving the spot to BAM Racing’s #49-Chad Chaffin.
The car for Vickers was ruled to be an eighth of an inch too low on its left front, and Vickers’ qualifying time was disallowed. The team was looking at shocks and springs to see why the car was too low.
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WTF? They let Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon get away with the violations at Sonoma and still race, but if it’s anybody else they get sent home! Inconsistency on NASCAR’s part again…
Brian Vickers is not in the top 35 in points and was not guaranteed a spot. Therefore, he had to get in on time. So,since his time was not allowed he could not race.
Not a Hendrick fan, but it is fair what Nascar did.
jimmmy and gorden automaticly had a spot in the race no matter what
vickers had to make it in on time and cheated so he goes home
booo hoo
I agree with the guy up top, why punish him so severly and not jeff and jimmie. I have always thought there was favortism towards the Hendrick team. Well I hope dale gets that too. But really something has to be done about them, I mean come on how many times can someone finish under caution in one season?
Sorry andrew, that was my comment. I didnt change the thing. Sorry first time blogger on here.
If you’re locked into the top 35 in owner points you can be DQ’ed for an infraction and still make the race, you just end up at the back using a provisional starting spot. As long as you’re in the top 35 you have unlimited use of the provisional as well. Johnson and Gordon were both high enough in owner points that regardless, they were in the show whether they qualified or not or were found in violation of the sport’s rules. That’s been consistent for years even as absurd to some as it sounds.
In Vicker’s case he was outside of the top 35 in owner points and that is why he failed to make the field in retrospect. NASCAR has been consistent with this ruling for a long time. It’s initially hard to wrap your head around (I know, I used to cry foul myself) and another byproduct of the silly provisional system. It does make sense considering how that the provisionals are awarded once you figure it all out though.
BTW… I tend to root for Toyota’s success considering of the manufacturers they’re the only one continually adding onto their U.S. production with new plants stateside meaning more domestic jobs (and they get admirable pay and benefits and in many cases are treated better than those working at UAW plants, they generally have more input in the production process… it was the Japanese system after all that Saturn in many ways modeled their production philosophy around, one that’s considered more humanitarian in many ways), whereas the rest are moving more and more production outside of the U.S. whether to Canada, Mexico, or across the pond.
I also, owning a Scion tC, think Toyota makes a heck of a car regardless of where it’s built. A Canadian or Mexican built GM, Ford, or Chrysler isn’t any better for the American workforce than a Japanese built Scion; but if the thing is built solid and reliable and doesn’t eat into my pocket expenses as much… it’s better for at least one American (me) in the long run as it saves on repair bills. It’s not the executives that make the $ nor the location of the main headquarters that classifies whether a company is American. It’s the # of workers that work hard in a blue collar sense and are rewarded adequately for their work and that reside in this good ol’ United States that are the true hallmark of whether a maker is “U.S. American” or not. It’s ultimately what is best for your bottomline in the end though. As a two-time former owner of GM products and coming from a GM family… it was time for a change, a change for something more reliable and that suited my needs. Much as I liked the Cobalt SS 2.4L coupe, it’s nowhere near as well built nor appealing to me as my tC.
Bottomline… there’s no bias in me against Toyota, hence the diatribe from above to rationalize my point. I’m no less sickened by the lack of a heftier penalty on the 48 bunch than what they got considering the sheer # of times Chad (an Illini like myself) and the gang were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. They ended up with the same penalty as the 24 and 8 teams with the CoT and yet… after as many times as they’ve been busted for cheating (intentional each time or not) and the past precedents that NASCAR has been under to increase the fine proportionately to the # of times the offense has occurred (going back well into the Earnhardt Sr. era before we hear people whining about “NASCAR is turning this into IROC… blah, blah, blah”), the 48 got hit with a slap on the wrist in comparison to what they should’ve received. I hold more of a qualm over the 48 CoT cheating incident of cheating and the Kurt Busch slap on the wrist penalty, but I don’t question this ruling on the 83.
It’s a shame that the Red Bull team didn’t make the race with Vickers, but that’s just the breaks though. I look for a lot of things to come from this team going forward as I personally think of the Toyota teams in Cup, they’re easily the best operation of the bunch with the right amount of talent to get them to the top quickly, esp. considering it’s their first season of Cup and their performances are already right there or better than BDR, a team that’s been around and established for umpteen years. Doug Richert was a huge loss for Roush, much moreso IMHO than the loss of Pat Tryson (also a blow), and I think it’s going to show more and more as Vickers and Allmendinger slowly gel. I do think Vickers is a bit cocky… but there ain’t no shame in the game if you can back it up. I believe, without question, that he will.
Funny how Karma comes back and bites you in da arse for knocking Jimmie and Dale Jr out.
hahaha, Also i was thinking that maybe its because the violation was found after qualification time.
Who know’s who cares!
Go Jimmie#48 Lowes Team!!
Ok first, the guy up top does not understand the rules. And I have a slotuion to the races ending under caution. In exibition races, and in a wide variety of openwheel races including modifieds and formula cars; laps under caution do not count. I beleaave they should bring back race to the yellow, and as soon as they all get across the yellow flag is in effect and laps do not count intill they go back green. This garuntees us the completel race ammount in racing. Its quite simple, and Lowes MotorSpeedway Humpy Wheeler is pushing this too Nascar. Also, they need to go to picture-in-picture for comercials, so that we may see teh racing coverage while in commercials, this would keep more people to the tv and we wouldnt miss out on some key moments, because the “if caution breaks out, well break in” just isnt cutting it. - Jake
Also, regardles of their position in points, J.Gordon & J.Johnson could use Champions provisional due to Jimmie being the most recent champion, and Gordon holding the most championships for the current era.
i forget who (broadcaster) it was but someone wanted PIP broadcast/commercial boxes and nascar said NO. they claimed it was for the benefit of their advertisers. DUMB.
i agree that yellows shouldn’t count for racing. however, if that is ever a rule in NASCAR, the races should DEFINITELY be shortened. i’d stab my eyes out, or change the channel, because that would make races way too long.
wow its amazing that even now people hate on hendrick motorsports….
jeff and jimmie are in top 35 and vickers isnt…can u tell who doesnt
pay much attention to nascar uhh i can…wow im not even a fan of either
one but yea if they are in the top 35 guess wat u get to race even if
u destroy ur car…wow imagine that
Of course Vickers got sent home. Not in the top 35 you qualify in or go home. The Hendrick cars were both in the top 35. All they have to do it show up and they get in. For once NASCAR has been pretty consistant on COT penalities.
I wonder if VIckers will get the new 100 point, $100k, 6 race crew chief suspension also? I think if it was caught like Jr and the Hendrick cars before it even got on the track I think he would. Since it obviously passed once to get on the track and something changed after it was qualified will they let the penality slide and just leave it as DNQ?
i didnt even know BAM racing was still around…
Hahahaha!
o.k….yes Brian Vickers should have been sent home ! Anyone who thinks that Jeff and Jimmie were REALLY penelized ….ha ha ha ! What a joke ! Their crew chiefs were right there feeding the “so called ” fill in ” crew chiefs info on what to do ! Jeff Gordon said himself ” its a good thing the WE could afford the points and monetary penelty” DA ! Jeff gave HIS summary of the penalty handed down to them ! I don’t think that crew chiefs should be allowed any contact at the track with the “fill in ” crew chiefs ! Nascar is just trying to pull ANOTHER fast on the fans ! We need to let them know that WE did’nt fall off the cabbage truck yesterday ! The ONLY ones REALLY hurt are the small teams with NO money !