Toyota has horsepower advantage at Daytona-UPDATE
Quote selected text Published February 17th, 2008 in NASCAR News
UPDATE:
NASCAR tested about 10 different Sprint Cup engines following last Thursday’s Gatorade Duel 150 qualifying races. According to several officials from NASCAR, the manufacturers who race in the Sprint Cup Series and race teams, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity, all parties involved are satisfied that the engines from Toyota, General Motors, Dodge and Ford are competitive with each other in terms of horsepower.
Most of the engines tested varied by less than 10 horsepower, multiple sources told SPEEDTV.com, with all but two of the engines within 7-8 horsepower of each other. And none of the four brands tested had a consistent advantage over the others. Media reports on Saturday that Toyotas had a 30-horsepower advantage over the Chevrolets were, to say the least, erroneous. Had that actually been the case, Chevrolet teams would have been raising a ruckus with NASCAR and complaining bitterly to the media about being at a competitive disadvantage. Nothing of the sort has happened.
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Judging from NASCAR’s post-150s chassis-dyno tests, which showed Toyota’s Tony Stewart had at least a 15 horsepower edge at his rear wheels over Chevy’s Dale Earnhardt Jr. in Thursday’s twin races. And Richard Childress’ Chevy engines were about 30 horsepower off the Toyotas, which is some concern in both the Childress camp and with GM officials.
NASCAR didn’t post any official numbers, but Stewart’s engine - built by Mark Cronquist, head of Joe Gibbs’ motor shop - pulled around 462 to 464 effective horsepower, according to those familiar with the results. That’s about 15 horsepower more than Earnhardt had and about 30 horsepower more than Chevy’s Kevin Harvick.
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As long as the engines are within the rules its A-OK.
^ exactly. I’m a Hendrick man all the way but it’s 100% fair if they have more power. Like we say down here at the dirt track… Somebody is gonna have to go back to the drawing board.
I really think it has to figure in with Mark Cronquist, he is one fine engine builder who knows how to get the most power out of the engines. Plus im sure it has something to do with Toyota providing virtually unlimted support funds. Just my two cents.
It is Toyota’s time to shine. They laid back last year… dormant… and now they are letting their muscle show. Gibbs engineers know how to build engines, and again, with Toyota’s unlimited amount of spending toward the NASCAR program, expect this to be a common trend… and Toyota winning more and more races.
Im sure Toyota made a very nice deal to JGR to become their team. That or JGR was tired of playing second fiddle to HMS. I bet JGR is the head hog in Toyotas program now.
I’m pretty sure that JGR was tired of being the 3rd tier Chevy team behind HMS and RCR and slightly infront of DEI.
all gibbs is is a bunch of chevys with toyota logos. doubt they had to get rid of all their cot cars from last year. just have toyota engineering to build on those cars now.
Leo wrote:
how can it be a Toyota badged Chevy when it actually makes more power? Sorry, For this round, Toyota wins the horsepower wars.
yeah thats true i guess we’ll see who has more torque!!!
As Usual Nascar dropped the ball and let Toyota sneak some stuff past them. This ranks right up there with the time they gave ford the 150 lb weight advantage.
Just a thought here… It’d be interesting if NASCAR opened up the Cup class to be an outlaw/unlimited motor class… It’ll never happen, but it’d be interesting.
What’s up with this. More horses to allow the new Car a win. Humm. As usual, they could not do a thing last year, as WE ALL noticed.
So, NASCAR. Dont talk about Cheaters, when YOU are allowing this to go on within Different Car Makers on the TRACK !!!!!
God what will they do NEXT to Ruin Racing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All 4 manufactures had the chance to have new motors for this year, Chevy and Toyota are the only two that took NASCAR up on that offer.
Leo wrote:
In Daytona, it’s about horspower. On other tracks, torque comes into play. This is why every manufacturer has a different spec for each track.
It’s not that NASCAR gave anything to Toyota. They give every manufacturer a chance to stay within the box. If Toyota engineers know or figured something out, that just means Chevy, Ford, and Dodge will have to get off their asses and start enginering. It’s NOT cheating.
It’s the same with regards to Hendricks. They are smarter than the the rest of the Chevy crowd, so they are dominating. Are they smarter or just plain cheaters?
Toyota has ruined every racing series they have been in ——buying wins………think about it!!!!!
cheater wrote:
Ummm How are they buying wins? Back up your claims with Facts….. or are you the kind of person that never lets Facts get in the way of a good argument……?
Kyle Bush is a good driver but he ain’t that good, the car runs away from all of them when he wants it to to, Toyota will get caught before it’s over. Look at Daytona he came from the rear in a restirctor race, don;t think so.