Now you come back against these other people in here and claim you are an angle sent from heaven and have treated everyone with respect. Kurt made himself look bad at Dover so now you got to do the same in here for yourself and his few fans?

Bottom line is this Dreggsta: The overwelming majority of fans don’t have respect for your driver and I don’t see that getting any better no matter how many post you submit

What exactly is your point with ALL of those post anyways? LMAO

I stated my opinions and you didn’t take that well. We all have our opinions. Your posts on this thread are laughable. You’re wasting everyone’s time. You seem to be intimidated by something. Stop compensating for whatever you’re lacking.

Axel said: “…Drivers and crew members know the risks. People are going to die and get hurt no matter what. I really think Kurt is competent enough to pull a jack ass move (like he did) and avoid killing or hurting a crew member. After all, he did it. I don’t think that was blind luck. Of course a lot of things could have happened differently when he did it but nothing did. Fine him and move on. ” -I say: No argument there just some frustration of you putting a spin on what I said. You were quick to “fly off the handle” to what I said. BTW, I read everything you wrote so, what do you mean I missed something? If I wasn’t sure of what you meant I would ask like I have done when we talked before. You never asked me once to clarify anything & I had to make corrections to your comments that were about my comments no less.

“So, get off your high horse and stop your suck fest with Kurt’s cucumber.” There is no class to that nor is it warranting a comeback. That was just lame.. (…was it my reference about me being as cool as… that made you think of a cucumber?) Kinda sounds like you can’t handle the competition. What competition? My point exactly.

I have watched Kurt for years since the Elite division. He has had the same douche bag attitude since the beginning. I have no problem with that so don’t get sad when I call that a personality flaw. I’ve also seen him in person from a relatively close distance at PIR. Seemed like a douche bag to me signing autographs for his “fans” but maybe he was just thinking about racing. Still, he shouldn’t half ass his effort to do things for his fans if he doesn’t care. I’d rather see the dude race than look at him anyway.

Also, your “Axel said:”, “Axel said:” is very flattering but obviously “Dregsta didn’t read”… You must have missed two entire posts because you were so ready to “fly off the handle” like you have on everyone during this post which definitely makes you sound like Busch’s defense attorney.

Axel said: “…Drivers and crew members know the risks. People are going to die and get hurt no matter what. I really think Kurt is competent enough to pull a jack ass move (like he did) and avoid killing or hurting a crew member. After all, he did it. I don’t think that was blind luck. Of course a lot of things could have happened differently when he did it but nothing did. Fine him and move on. “

Axel said: “…Kurt acomplished his goal and no one got hurt. At that moment I bet Kurt wished Tony dead. “…Some people get away with those things with out a scratch (on anyone) everytime. That is what I love about racing.”

Axel said: “The more I think about this situation the more I like Kurt. He wasn’t thinking sponsor or fans… He was thinking about racing.”

So, get off your high horse and stop your suck fest with Kurt’s cucumber.

It is not about wreather it was close or not it is about what could have happened. Kurt had just hit the wall very hard and it could havev very easly damaged his brakes, If you watch the replay which I have several times sence I recorded the race, Kurt hit his brakes pretty hard before he hit tonys car what if they would have failed and he hit tony much harder it could of hurt several people including a NASCAR inspector. Kurt should count his lucky stars that he did not kill anyone . There have been several crewmen have there carriers cut short becouse of injuries to there legs just from getting brushed by a car entering or leaving a pit next to theres. What if the crewman would have slipped and fell next to tonys car, things could have been a lot worse and NASCAR should have used Kurt to let all the other drivers know that they womt put up with that crap, that is why they came down so hard on the 8 team for using the wrong Wing brackets and from what I have seen they wouldn’t have even given JR. any kind of advantage in the race but they were letting all the crews know not to push the rules with the COT and that is what needed to be done with Kurt to let all the drivers know that there not playing around with thw crewmens safty on pit road.

Axel said:”Don’t even bring up Earnhardt in this situation. He may have done some malicious things at times but it didn’t directly threaten someone not in a car and so close to the action, especially not crew members” -I say: Although your point is somewhat correct that isn’t the point that you argued w/me. I said he (Earnhardt) did indeed intentionally wreck other drivers & even gave an unarguable point by bringing up the Dale & Darrell incident. Who’s to say that it couldn’t have ended up differently? How did he die again? In a car? What was Tony doing to Kurt after the yellow was waved? Exactly. Besides, it wasn’t even that close of an incident in the pits. Be real. Just b/c he jumped on the hood didn’t make it close. The 20 is popular. That’s where most of the outcry is coming from. I’M STILL NOT SAYING WHAT KURT DID ON PIT ROAD WAS RIGHT. Understand?

Axel said: “This is about what happened on pit road and that is what you were refering to when I made the comments I did.” -I say: you were actually arguing the comments I made. That’s why we are having personal conversations in a public forum. To preserve the integrity of what I said after you twist things around.

Axel said:”I see why you like Kurt now, you fly off the handle just like him.” -I say: Thanks for the compliment but as far as me personally flying off the handle you are wrong again. I’m cool as a cucumber. I don’t get mad having to deal w/you. A lil frustrated that I have to repeat myself so many times yes but not mad or as you put it “flying off the handle”. You don’t know me at all & I never made the assertion that I knew you. I am here for intelligent debate not witch burning. So if you have a problem with something I said by all means feel free to ask what I meant or ask me to clarify. Don’t make the assumption you already know. Don’t come at me w/a “the-authority-on-the-subject” or “know-more-than-you” attitude. You have come incorrect to me every time. If you don’t think of yourself this way (& I’m sure you don’t) then I suggest you read your own posts.

Axel said: “Come correct? You’ve got 5 years of life experience on me so learn to articulate your thoughts “correct” or just don’t change what you’re saying when you realize its wrong. I stand by what I say.” -I say: Bahahahahaha, lol! BTW, thank you for clarifying the age difference. Sounds like you are the one having a, how did you say it, “coronary”, hehehe. I’ve not changed one thing I’ve said. Not once. I guess it might appear that way to someone who cannot accurately comment on something that they think they commenting on. I can see how it might be elusive to you. Is that articulate enough?

Axel said: “Also, I’m not saying that Tony shouldn’t be penalized for what he did after the
wreck…” -I say: Dude, that’s all I was saying in the first place. Other people understood that, why didn’t you? All this flim-flam back & forth stuff wasn’t necessary. If you feel like “What Kurt did was the greater evil…” then that’s fine. I have no qualms. Also, I fully support this statement you made: “I really think that all of this craze over penalties as of late is ridiculous. Let the drivers sort it out as much as possible and NASCAR should give anyone who asks a copy of the damn rule book.” - I say: Amen brother.

Robin Pemberton explained Nascar’s decision on Sirius radio
and he said that Nascar PARKED the 2 car ..there was
very little damage on that car and it was a GOOD car..

so if they hadn’t parked Kurt he would have had a better finish
than 42nd so add that with losing 100 points that equals 2
races that Kurt is behind the other drivers..

Kurt Busch penalized, not suspended: NASCAR announced today that Kurt Busch, driver of the #2 Miller Lite Dodge in the Nextel Cup Series, has been penalized 100 championship driver points, fined $100,000 and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31, 2007 for violating Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing – reckless driving; endangering a crew member on pit road) of the 2007 NASCAR rule book. Car owner Roger Penske has also been penalized with the loss of 100 championship owner points due to his driver’s infraction. The violation occurred on pit road during the race at Dover International Speedway on June 4.(NASCAR PR), not happy with the outcome? don’t tell me, email or contact NASCAR, see my Racing FAQ page for ways to contact.(6-8-2007)

You all got to remember that 100 points is like sitting out a race and couple
that with the bad Dover finish that would put him 2 races behind..