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		<title>By: KeeryEteque</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43533"]Well Truex wont have to worry about making the chase this season, they just took his car for not passing inspection 2 times, you know what that means, 100 owner 100 driver and 150,000 dollar fine .[/quote]


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How many RCR cars did they take?  "0"  That cannot be true because they have the exact same cars, right fisha?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43533" title="View original comment"><cite>Howie Motorsports Photography</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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Well Truex wont have to worry about making the chase this season, they just took his car for not passing inspection 2 times, you know what that means, 100 owner 100 driver and 150,000 dollar fine .</p>
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<p>How many RCR cars did they take?  &#8220;0&#8243;  That cannot be true because they have the exact same cars, right fisha?</p>
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		<title>By: Howie Motorsports Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie Motorsports Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Truex wont have to worry about making the chase this season, they just took his car for not passing inspection 2 times, you know what that means, 100 owner 100 driver and 150,000 dollar fine .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Truex wont have to worry about making the chase this season, they just took his car for not passing inspection 2 times, you know what that means, 100 owner 100 driver and 150,000 dollar fine .</p>
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		<title>By: Lee88-20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee88-20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43520"]The difference is, Jrs fans think he walks on water... and yes, Jr is one of the many drivers I like but when it comes to his fans they think he is perfect. And making fun of a driver because of his looks? When is the last time Jr won a beauty contest?? I understand going back &#38; forth about different opinions but to knock someone because of their looks? Come on now...
As for the hitting or crashing someone... if you go back to when Sr was alive, what gave him the right? Because he was the 'Intimidator'? He was wrecking people almost every weekend to try &#38; win![/quote]
Knocking somebody because of their looks...Im making a joke come on now....thats no different than you sitting here labeling jr fans  that you dont even know if you read I never said he was perfect but maybe the reason people and fans think highly of him is because he shows people respect and has some class unlike "it wasnt my fault busch".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43520" title="View original comment"><cite>Me</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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The difference is, Jrs fans think he walks on water&#8230; and yes, Jr is one of the many drivers I like but when it comes to his fans they think he is perfect. And making fun of a driver because of his looks? When is the last time Jr won a beauty contest?? I understand going back &amp; forth about different opinions but to knock someone because of their looks? Come on now&#8230;<br />
As for the hitting or crashing someone&#8230; if you go back to when Sr was alive, what gave him the right? Because he was the &#8216;Intimidator&#8217;? He was wrecking people almost every weekend to try &amp; win!</p>
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<p>Knocking somebody because of their looks&#8230;Im making a joke come on now&#8230;.thats no different than you sitting here labeling jr fans  that you dont even know if you read I never said he was perfect but maybe the reason people and fans think highly of him is because he shows people respect and has some class unlike &#8220;it wasnt my fault busch&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie Motorsports Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie Motorsports Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43522"][quote comment="43515"]Go Kyle Go!!  I would like to bet anyone Kyle is gonna win daytona!!  I have inside info, and if someone doesn't wreck him, he will be in winner circle!![/quote]

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You have inside information that shrub is going to win?  Wow, that is news.  I new NASCAR was fixed, how else could shrub win as many races in one year than he has won in his career.[/quote]


maybe he knows about a new cylinder head TRD is using for the first time this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43522" title="View original comment"><cite>Sam</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43515" title="View original comment"><cite>Kyle fan</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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Go Kyle Go!!  I would like to bet anyone Kyle is gonna win daytona!!  I have inside info, and if someone doesn&#8217;t wreck him, he will be in winner circle!!</p>
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<p>You have inside information that shrub is going to win?  Wow, that is news.  I new NASCAR was fixed, how else could shrub win as many races in one year than he has won in his career.</p>
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<p>maybe he knows about a new cylinder head TRD is using for the first time this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43515"]Go Kyle Go!!  I would like to bet anyone Kyle is gonna win daytona!!  I have inside info, and if someone doesn't wreck him, he will be in winner circle!![/quote]


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You have inside information that shrub is going to win?  Wow, that is news.  I new NASCAR was fixed, how else could shrub win as many races in one year than he has won in his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43515" title="View original comment"><cite>Kyle fan</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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Go Kyle Go!!  I would like to bet anyone Kyle is gonna win daytona!!  I have inside info, and if someone doesn&#8217;t wreck him, he will be in winner circle!!</p>
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<p>You have inside information that shrub is going to win?  Wow, that is news.  I new NASCAR was fixed, how else could shrub win as many races in one year than he has won in his career.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is, Jrs fans think he walks on water... and yes, Jr is one of the many drivers I like but when it comes to his fans they think he is perfect. And making fun of a driver because of his looks? When is the last time Jr won a beauty contest?? I understand going back &#38; forth about different opinions but to knock someone because of their looks? Come on now...
As for the hitting or crashing someone... if you go back to when Sr was alive, what gave him the right? Because he was the 'Intimidator'? He was wrecking people almost every weekend to try &#38; win!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is, Jrs fans think he walks on water&#8230; and yes, Jr is one of the many drivers I like but when it comes to his fans they think he is perfect. And making fun of a driver because of his looks? When is the last time Jr won a beauty contest?? I understand going back &amp; forth about different opinions but to knock someone because of their looks? Come on now&#8230;<br />
As for the hitting or crashing someone&#8230; if you go back to when Sr was alive, what gave him the right? Because he was the &#8216;Intimidator&#8217;? He was wrecking people almost every weekend to try &amp; win!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee88-20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee88-20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43496"]Fisha

Dont you know Jr is perfect and he would never make a mistake, LOL LOL LOL LOL PLEASE Fisha you couldnt be more right but you you know jr fans are die hard and usually dont know anything bout racing and they just like jr cause of his name[/quote]
Im a jr fan   and ive never said hes perfect and ive been watching racing for over 30 years,I guess you think your driver is perfect....that idiot is running into somebody every weekend but its never his fault as he claims....maybe its his big nose that effects his vision im not sure but the guy cant go 1 weekend without hitting or crashing somebody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43496" title="View original comment"><cite>ROWDY BUSH</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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Fisha</p>
<p>Dont you know Jr is perfect and he would never make a mistake, LOL LOL LOL LOL PLEASE Fisha you couldnt be more right but you you know jr fans are die hard and usually dont know anything bout racing and they just like jr cause of his name</p>
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<p>Im a jr fan   and ive never said hes perfect and ive been watching racing for over 30 years,I guess you think your driver is perfect&#8230;.that idiot is running into somebody every weekend but its never his fault as he claims&#8230;.maybe its his big nose that effects his vision im not sure but the guy cant go 1 weekend without hitting or crashing somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Kyle Go!!  I would like to bet anyone Kyle is gonna win daytona!!  I have inside info, and if someone doesn't wreck him, he will be in winner circle!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Kyle Go!!  I would like to bet anyone Kyle is gonna win daytona!!  I have inside info, and if someone doesn&#8217;t wreck him, he will be in winner circle!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Daytona is gonna be interesting!! And just like last year a driver no one thinks will win will wind up in victory lane!!</description>
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		<title>By: ROWDY BUSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROWDY BUSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisha

         Dont you know Jr is perfect and he would never make a mistake, LOL LOL LOL LOL PLEASE Fisha you couldnt be more right but you you know jr fans are die hard and usually dont know anything bout racing and they just like jr cause of his name</description>
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<p>         Dont you know Jr is perfect and he would never make a mistake, LOL LOL LOL LOL PLEASE Fisha you couldnt be more right but you you know jr fans are die hard and usually dont know anything bout racing and they just like jr cause of his name</p>
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		<title>By: ROWDY BUSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROWDY BUSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW SAM


         Your a huge JR mark arent you, face it he just as much as fault as JMAC, you can watch the clip and see that he came all the way across the racing groove and even if he didnt you even said he has half on the track and on the apron. As for the 2 winners who have both won races and said JMAC was at fault, first of all BIFFLE never said it was his fault mikey did biffle skirted around it, and on the other hand Spencer and Wallace both said JR was at fault so you can take anything anyone says and redact it to whatever you want. Bottom line is both drivers could have done things differently to avoid that incident, lets face it jr makes mistakes people hes not as perfect every driver makes mistakes.</description>
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<p>         Your a huge JR mark arent you, face it he just as much as fault as JMAC, you can watch the clip and see that he came all the way across the racing groove and even if he didnt you even said he has half on the track and on the apron. As for the 2 winners who have both won races and said JMAC was at fault, first of all BIFFLE never said it was his fault mikey did biffle skirted around it, and on the other hand Spencer and Wallace both said JR was at fault so you can take anything anyone says and redact it to whatever you want. Bottom line is both drivers could have done things differently to avoid that incident, lets face it jr makes mistakes people hes not as perfect every driver makes mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moment of Impact picture. JR above the yellow line, JMac above the yellow line.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3716/momentofimpactmo7.jpg

That still is a frame or two after they hit.

I also have stills that show Jr running the middle in turn 3 and then cutting down right infront of a few people trying to get to pit road.

Also Howie it happened so fast, from the time Jr slowed up and cut across the track, JMacs spotter probaly didn't even have time to tell him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moment of Impact picture. JR above the yellow line, JMac above the yellow line.<br />
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<p>That still is a frame or two after they hit.</p>
<p>I also have stills that show Jr running the middle in turn 3 and then cutting down right infront of a few people trying to get to pit road.</p>
<p>Also Howie it happened so fast, from the time Jr slowed up and cut across the track, JMacs spotter probaly didn&#8217;t even have time to tell him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43486"]I don't think Racing on the Apron is ok at all, I think the Safety Apron should be off limits for all racing. I also think that the NASCAR Commitment cone as a few tracks (NHMS is one of them) needs to be moved back further into the turn.

Look at the clip on youtube, Jr was in the middle line in turns 3 and the entry of turn 4, coming out of turn 4 he slowed a lot and shot down too the apron.

JMac hit him while Jr was about 1/4 on the track. At the moment of impact Jr was about 1/4 in the racing groove and JMac was fully on the track.

The line JMac was running and the sudden move that Jr made, even if JMac would have slammed on the brakes he still would have hit Jr a ton.

JMac is not at fault at all, the only thing JMac could be at fault for is entering the race, but hey Jr entered the race too. Jr made the sudden cut across the track, now I haven't heard any in-car audio but it almost looks like he was in turn 3 and his Cousin got on the radio and said PIT NOW, and Jr just kinda freaked out and cut down the track, causing the wreck.

Here is the wreck on Youtube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ecmNxKm4&#38;feature=related[/quote]


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We have covered this topic and I am done with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43486" title="View original comment"><cite>Fisha695</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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I don&#8217;t think Racing on the Apron is ok at all, I think the Safety Apron should be off limits for all racing. I also think that the NASCAR Commitment cone as a few tracks (NHMS is one of them) needs to be moved back further into the turn.</p>
<p>Look at the clip on youtube, Jr was in the middle line in turns 3 and the entry of turn 4, coming out of turn 4 he slowed a lot and shot down too the apron.</p>
<p>JMac hit him while Jr was about 1/4 on the track. At the moment of impact Jr was about 1/4 in the racing groove and JMac was fully on the track.</p>
<p>The line JMac was running and the sudden move that Jr made, even if JMac would have slammed on the brakes he still would have hit Jr a ton.</p>
<p>JMac is not at fault at all, the only thing JMac could be at fault for is entering the race, but hey Jr entered the race too. Jr made the sudden cut across the track, now I haven&#8217;t heard any in-car audio but it almost looks like he was in turn 3 and his Cousin got on the radio and said PIT NOW, and Jr just kinda freaked out and cut down the track, causing the wreck.</p>
<p>Here is the wreck on Youtube. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ecmNxKm4&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ecmNxKm4&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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<p>)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))</p>
<p>We have covered this topic and I am done with it!</p>
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		<title>By: Howie Motorsports Photography</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys are unbelievable, Dale was below the line on the apron when Jamie plowed into him, they use the apron at a lot of tracks, but Jamie's spotter should have told him Dale was off the pace and pitting but didn't. the wreck was Jamie's fault and it was just another racing deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys are unbelievable, Dale was below the line on the apron when Jamie plowed into him, they use the apron at a lot of tracks, but Jamie&#8217;s spotter should have told him Dale was off the pace and pitting but didn&#8217;t. the wreck was Jamie&#8217;s fault and it was just another racing deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac5689</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43362"][quote comment="43359"]i feel Kyle Busch is too much of a cry baby. i didn't watch the race (and now i'm glad i didn't) but i feel that Montoya is telling what really happen, whlie Kyle is trying to act like he is the victum. i didn't like Montoya much when he decided to come into Nascar, so its a big deal if i say that i feel like he's telling the truth. Kyle races to hard, and he knows it, so instead of taken the blame, he trys to pin it one someone else. i think Nascar did a good thing by not giving Montoya a penalty, maybe they finaly figured out that Kyle Busch is a Rough racer and that anything that happens to him is His fault and not the other driver.[/quote]
well if you didnt watch the race how can you even take sides? JP was at fault for that last hit and he took out himself in the process, he was doin the cryin after the race.[/quote]


Kyle Busch said "I don’t know what his beef is but, obviously, NASCAR should probably fix it.” to me that sounds like he was crying. i haven't heard Juan Pablo Montoya, say anything other then what happen in his racecar. 

and who said i had to watch the race to take a side, as long as the facts are presented to me in form of writing or video (ie, TV) i can have a clear idea what happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43362" title="View original comment"><cite>Howie Motorsports Photography</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43359" title="View original comment"><cite>Mac5689</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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i feel Kyle Busch is too much of a cry baby. i didn&#8217;t watch the race (and now i&#8217;m glad i didn&#8217;t) but i feel that Montoya is telling what really happen, whlie Kyle is trying to act like he is the victum. i didn&#8217;t like Montoya much when he decided to come into Nascar, so its a big deal if i say that i feel like he&#8217;s telling the truth. Kyle races to hard, and he knows it, so instead of taken the blame, he trys to pin it one someone else. i think Nascar did a good thing by not giving Montoya a penalty, maybe they finaly figured out that Kyle Busch is a Rough racer and that anything that happens to him is His fault and not the other driver.</p>
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<p>well if you didnt watch the race how can you even take sides? JP was at fault for that last hit and he took out himself in the process, he was doin the cryin after the race.</p>
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<p>Kyle Busch said &#8220;I don’t know what his beef is but, obviously, NASCAR should probably fix it.” to me that sounds like he was crying. i haven&#8217;t heard Juan Pablo Montoya, say anything other then what happen in his racecar. </p>
<p>and who said i had to watch the race to take a side, as long as the facts are presented to me in form of writing or video (ie, TV) i can have a clear idea what happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think Racing on the Apron is ok at all, I think the Safety Apron should be off limits for all racing. I also think that the NASCAR Commitment cone as a few tracks (NHMS is one of them) needs to be moved back further into the turn.

Look at the clip on youtube, Jr was in the middle line in turns 3 and the entry of turn 4, coming out of turn 4 he slowed a lot and shot down too the apron. 

JMac hit him while Jr was about 1/4 on the track. At the moment of impact Jr was about 1/4 in the racing groove and JMac was fully on the track.

The line JMac was running and the sudden move that Jr made, even if JMac would have slammed on the brakes he still would have hit Jr a ton. 

JMac is not at fault at all, the only thing JMac could be at fault for is entering the race, but hey Jr entered the race too. Jr made the sudden cut across the track, now I haven't heard any in-car audio but it almost looks like he was in turn 3 and his Cousin got on the radio and said PIT NOW, and Jr just kinda freaked out and cut down the track, causing the wreck.

Here is the wreck on Youtube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ecmNxKm4&#38;feature=related</description>
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<p>Look at the clip on youtube, Jr was in the middle line in turns 3 and the entry of turn 4, coming out of turn 4 he slowed a lot and shot down too the apron. </p>
<p>JMac hit him while Jr was about 1/4 on the track. At the moment of impact Jr was about 1/4 in the racing groove and JMac was fully on the track.</p>
<p>The line JMac was running and the sudden move that Jr made, even if JMac would have slammed on the brakes he still would have hit Jr a ton. </p>
<p>JMac is not at fault at all, the only thing JMac could be at fault for is entering the race, but hey Jr entered the race too. Jr made the sudden cut across the track, now I haven&#8217;t heard any in-car audio but it almost looks like he was in turn 3 and his Cousin got on the radio and said PIT NOW, and Jr just kinda freaked out and cut down the track, causing the wreck.</p>
<p>Here is the wreck on Youtube. <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ecmNxKm4&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI8ecmNxKm4&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisha,

So racing below the yellow line is ok, but slowing down before you get completely below the yellow Line is not ok?  


What ever fisha!  Two drivers who have won races and are active drivers said that Mcmurray was at fault!

As a driver you are responsible for not hitting the driver in front of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fisha,</p>
<p>So racing below the yellow line is ok, but slowing down before you get completely below the yellow Line is not ok?  </p>
<p>What ever fisha!  Two drivers who have won races and are active drivers said that Mcmurray was at fault!</p>
<p>As a driver you are responsible for not hitting the driver in front of you!</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="43451"]Your wrong on this one fisha,  even biffle said that mcmurray was at fault and he said it on tv along with MW.  JR was almost completely below the yellow line.  Biffle said that he and mcmurray had been racing down their all day.  Mcmurray did not even see jr.  He was not paying attention.[/quote]

You said one thing that is 100% true and that was "JR was almost completely below the yellow line". He was still on the track, and for what it's worth the racing line while slowing down. By that point Jr should have been completely off of the track. Now don't get me wrong I know and understand why he was still on the track at that point, but that doesn't mean he wasn't in the wrong.

As far as what JMac was doing, he was 100% doing the right thing, you drive looking out OVER your hood with your eyes looking at where you want to go. The only way JMac could have saw that Jr was still that far up in the line would be if JMac was driving Off the front of his hood and not paying attention to were he wanted the car to go. Not only was JMac doing what they teach you in Racing 101, but he was doing what they teach you in Drivers Ed as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/nascar-plans-no-post-race-penalty-on-montoya/#comment-43451" title="View original comment"><cite>Sam</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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Your wrong on this one fisha,  even biffle said that mcmurray was at fault and he said it on tv along with MW.  JR was almost completely below the yellow line.  Biffle said that he and mcmurray had been racing down their all day.  Mcmurray did not even see jr.  He was not paying attention.</p>
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<p>You said one thing that is 100% true and that was &#8220;JR was almost completely below the yellow line&#8221;. He was still on the track, and for what it&#8217;s worth the racing line while slowing down. By that point Jr should have been completely off of the track. Now don&#8217;t get me wrong I know and understand why he was still on the track at that point, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he wasn&#8217;t in the wrong.</p>
<p>As far as what JMac was doing, he was 100% doing the right thing, you drive looking out OVER your hood with your eyes looking at where you want to go. The only way JMac could have saw that Jr was still that far up in the line would be if JMac was driving Off the front of his hood and not paying attention to were he wanted the car to go. Not only was JMac doing what they teach you in Racing 101, but he was doing what they teach you in Drivers Ed as well.</p>
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		<title>By: ROWDY BUSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROWDY BUSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAM

           FIsha didnt say that I did, and your right Mikey and Biffle did say that but Spencer and Wallace said it was Jr's fault cause he was cutting across the track, either way like I said earlier Im sure the was more that each driver could have done to avoid that situation</description>
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<p>           FIsha didnt say that I did, and your right Mikey and Biffle did say that but Spencer and Wallace said it was Jr&#8217;s fault cause he was cutting across the track, either way like I said earlier Im sure the was more that each driver could have done to avoid that situation</p>
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