NASCAR plans no post-race penalty on Montoya
Quote selected text Published June 29th, 2008 in NASCAR News
Juan Pablo Montoya was hit with a two-lap penalty Sunday after he intentionally ran into NASCAR Sprint Cup points leader Kyle Busch during a late caution period at New Hampshire Motor Speedway.
Montoya spun out Busch, but the move backfired when Busch’s car came back across the track and hit Montoya’s.
The former open-wheel star, in his second full season in NASCAR, was called to the NASCAR hauler after the race for a talking to, although officials said there would be no further penalties. The penalty dropped Montoya to 32nd place, while Busch finished 25th.
Montoya said after leaving the NASCAR hauler that he was just trying to defend himself.
“On the restart, I got around on the outside of him in turn two and he just went wide like I wasn’t even there,” he explained. “Then we touched each other and (I) got beside him to the next corner and he starts banging on me like he was trying to wreck me.
“I said, `OK.’ I went into the corner and the wreck happened. … I thought we had a decent car today and I don’t appreciate when people race me like that.”
Busch said he had no idea what happened.
“I didn’t turn down into him and just barely touched his quarterpanel,” he said. “Then I got by him in (turns) three and four and he run me up the racetrack in the left rear. Then we came to that caution flag and he thought he beat me to the caution flag and I was just trying to get around the car in front of us there and touched him on the door. He just turned left and spun me down the front straightaway.
“I don’t know what his beef is but, obviously, NASCAR should probably fix it.”
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i feel Kyle Busch is too much of a cry baby. i didn’t watch the race (and now i’m glad i didn’t) but i feel that Montoya is telling what really happen, whlie Kyle is trying to act like he is the victum. i didn’t like Montoya much when he decided to come into Nascar, so its a big deal if i say that i feel like he’s telling the truth. Kyle races to hard, and he knows it, so instead of taken the blame, he trys to pin it one someone else. i think Nascar did a good thing by not giving Montoya a penalty, maybe they finaly figured out that Kyle Busch is a Rough racer and that anything that happens to him is His fault and not the other driver.
That a boy JP, sweet move. Just another racin’ deal..lol
JPM was at fault. He showed that he wasn’t interested in making any friends last year and he’s still not interested in making any friends this year.
Mac5689 wrote:
well if you didnt watch the race how can you even take sides? JP was at fault for that last hit and he took out himself in the process, he was doin the cryin after the race.
Wow, JPM once again doesn’t get a penalty for intentionally trying to take out someone. Boy, I’m shocked *rolls eyes*
Charles, you must not have read the article (or watched the race) He DID get a penalty, a two lap penalty which is the same that other drivers have gotten in this same type of situation.
Shrub started it and he should have been penalized as well. I did watch the race and I watched the review over and over. Shrubs moves were less aggressive but he he montoya just the same and several times. They couldn’t penalize montoya anymore without penalizing shrub as well. We all know that they are not going to penalize shrub!
Well leave it to the haters to always blame Kyle. It amazes me that no matter what happens he is always ay fault. People who aren’t watching the race are so sure that it’s always shrubs fault. Kyle is a wheel man and you all can’t stand that he is kicking everyones back sides. He will be champion soon.
I think JPM should go back to Colombia and stick to driving one horse coffee carts around. He obviously doesnt have the respect for other drivers in NASCAR. He thinks cause he drove F1 he would come over here and do better then he is is, and fact has it he is not doing good. The only way for him to get his sponsored mentioned was to wreck the points leader. JPM turned him on purpose and Im glad that it ended up turning Montoya to. Speaking of penalties, Im surprised NASCAR didnt suspend Mcmurray for rest of the season for dumping the GOLDEN BOY,(GOOD JOB MCMURRAY),
Since JPM INTENTIONALY caused a wreck under caution should he have been penalized?
I don’t like Kyle Busch, but I’m not stupid. He wasn’t at fault. JPM took it
way out of hand. He’s lucky they didn’t have great cars and crash up front with
the other..well.. I wouldn’t say Top 5 considering who finished there. Lol. But you
guys know what I mean.
Siiceman wrote:
He was. They parked him for two laps. I would have rather seen them give him the same thing they gave Waltrip and parked him for the remainder of the race, though. As usual, it would be nice if they could make rulings consistent from race to race!
i cant say i was sad to see ole Rowdy Busch get spun out…regardless who is at fault….sooner or later hes gonna meet his maker and JPM on the cup side/Hornady on the truck side are the 2 he better stay away from…jamie Mcmurrays bonehead move running into the bk of JR pretty much sealed my interest in the race cause i figure he would lose more pts to Kyle..but thanks to JPM…he gained 8 more pts :)…keep it comin!
Montoya has a lot of talent, and all you haters fail to realize that he Odin subpar equipment at Ganassi and was having a decent top-15 run.
Montoya earns respect from me for his no backing down attitude.
in formula 1, which I doubt many of you know much about or even know what it is, he was one of few who really challenged Ferrari dominance with an inferior car. In New Hampshire, kyle busch started a chain of events that ended in Busch being wrecked.
Was it the right thing to do? I’m not so sure.
but god d@mn its about time someone stood up and put kyle busch back in his place.
Actually it ended with JPM being Wrecked, Shrub came out relatively unscathed.
Matter of fact no matter how much I like JPM, I still kinda liked the fact that he did more damage to his car when he tried to take somebody out then he did to the person he was trying to take out.
Like I told some kid that races at my local track the other week, Go ahead and try to prove a point because 99.99% of the time you will end up taking yourself out and coming out on the short end of the stick.
oh well, just another racing incident in another race that ended in the best car not winning, that actually made the end of the race interesting since it was another boring race with only 9 lead changes on a mile track. give me a break, next year we will see a whole new race track at another spot on the property. good riddins
OK Anonymous, I actually do watch F1 and JPM won 1 F1 race for BMW and Mercedes/Mclaren which I would not say are inferior, especially the mercedes mclaren team, sounds like to me his feelings were hurt win Ferrari went with Kimi and not JPM. Also how can you say you like his not backing down attitude thats the same way Kyle and Tony are. So JPM did pretty good in F1 thought he could come over here and dominate, and hes been proven wrong just Villenuve
F1, what a joke, thats the biggest joke of all the series. its the only series where the teams can tell their drivers which one is going to win like the Hamilton incident last year where the McLaren Team ordered him to finish second to Fernando Alonso. you call that racing??? I dont think so and lets not forget the wasted gas everyone spend to watch 6 cars go around INDY a few years ago. Good Riddins to F1 in the USA. take your rigged races somewhere else.
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He did not kick anyones butt yesterday! He needs a great car just like all the other drivers.
Howie Motorsports Photography wrote:
Yeah because another 1.5 Mile D-shaped Dog-Legged oval is just what we need. (really wish there was a rolls eyes smiley here)
If Bruton has any Cajones he’d build a state of the art road course that’s not as easy as the Glen and not as single file as Sears Point.
How much land does that property actually have?
Will the County/State let him build another track?
Depending on where they build the track, will they still have enough parking?
Does NASCAR have to go to the new track?
Howie Motorsports Photography wrote:
Blame that on the union not the series. Just another reason that NASCAR does not need a drivers union.
New Hamphire sits on about 1100 acres and he plans on building a high banked 1 mile oval that will be used for both NASCAR and IRL. and he is looking to do it all by next fall with the existing track used for the first cup date next year and the second date on the new track
Jerry Gappens says the new speedway will seat 160,000 and will have all new RV parking like Bristol, Daytona only sits on 500 acres and it is a 2 1/2 mile track. There also will be no plans for a dragstrip.
It’s funny that Anonymous hates Kyle for the same reason he respects Juan Problem Montoya… weird.
And Sam… yeah, I’ll give you yesterday…. yesterday, that’s one race. Look at the year so far, obviously Kyle isn’t doing as bad as some of the others or as bad as all of you would like him to …
I agree Kyle is kicking everyones butt this year, which is why he leads the points.
ROWDY BUSH wrote:
you have no idea what your talking about.
the Williams was far inferior to the Ferrari which won 15/17 races in 2002 I think. Also, montoya was fired well before Schumacher even announced his retirement. I mean know what you are talking about before you speak please. Thanks.
also, put montoya in buschs car and you’d see he isn’t that bad. Kyle is just a prick who doesnt like to get back what he dishes out
Geez why does everyone here hate f1
without ever going to a race or researching the sport.
Howie, Hamilton was not ordered to finish 2nd in Monaco.
He was complaining because Alonso was given a better strategy
than himself because Alonso qualified higher (which is what many teams do)
just go to a race or watch one on SPEED and marvel at the
Engineering that goes into those machines.
I mean those 2ish liter engines turn over 19000 rpm.
Also the detail that goes into the chassis design is fascinating.
Nascar is great if you like pointless overtaking, however the
engineering and detail in f1 are just incredible And is most of the
reason why its 5x more popular globallly than NaSCAR.
Andrew wrote:
Yeah, because 2 hours of follow the leader is oh so much better! Don’t get me wrong, I like F1 and I watch every Sunday morning, but that might be the worst argument I’ve ever heard anyone make for one side or the other in the F1/NASCAR debate.
Howie Motorsports Photography wrote:
So he is going to build Dover……. IRL didn’t like that track, so why would they go to a new one?
The only thing that I like about this is the fact that for next year he wants to have NH1 on the flat track and NH2 on the banked track. Now I know this probably won’t happen, but I’d like to see that happen every year.
The bottom line is Nascar and F1 are 2 etremely different forms of racing, both of which offer challenges to any driver, yes F1 there is rarely passing and it is pretty much where you qualify and those cars are simply amazing with what they cand and the limits they can be pushed to. On the other hand cups cars are designed to be equal as they can be and offer a better form of “racing” either way the drivers are very talented. As for alonso hes a rat bastard i hope to god ferrari does not get alonso net year.
The IRL has already given him a date, we just wont know it until it is made public.
Howie Motorsports Photography wrote:
Actually according to word from somebody who works in the IRL offices the contract is still not signed. They have agreed tentatively to which weekends are available, but nothing official has been signed.
And you should know as well as anybody else, in this sport, until it’s signed sealed and delivered, anything can happen that could stop it.
when you commit to Bruton, their is no backing out and he states he has a commitment for the 2009 season.
I have never been one of the people that said JPM shouldn’t be in Nascar but if he
is going to continue this kind of stuff then he shouldn’t be in Nascar. If people had watched the
race you would see that most of the contact that JPM was complaining about was because Kyle
had to duck to the middle quickly because JPM’s teammate Dario had slowed way up. It was
either shoot to the middle or ram Dario and destroy both cars. Most cars end up with donuts on
the sides of the cars if Tony expects differently he needs to go back to the open wheel cars.
Howie Motorsports Photography wrote:
Hmm just heard that it’s a two track deal, NHMS and Vegas.
Plus need we all forget earlier in the race when JPM got into Reed Sorenson his team mate almost wrecked him
Not to worry Rowdy Busch..
Kubica will be going to Ferrari next year, mark my words.
No one wants Alonso on their team exept ol Flavio Briatore.
The days of team number 1s are over…Alonso needs to accept that
well KUBICA has definatley stepped up to the plate and proven hes a driver, let alonso and renault disappear together
ROWDY BUSH wrote:
I’d drink to that one!
A brilliant summary over at foxsports
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/8299286/Montoya-vs.-Busch:-Two-sides-to-every-story
HOWIE,
the bonehead move was on Jr’s part he wasnt even on the apron he was in turn 3 and tries to hit pit rd and by doing so he took out Mcmurray and ragan, that was all Jr’s fault of course the broadcasters cant say anything bad about jr. But spencer and wallace both said on victory lane Jr made a mistake, that it looked like he was trying to keep his momentum up for a gas and go and thats why he wasnt on the apron and came acroos to the track to try and hit pit rd. Member Jr fans he is a mediocre driver and he makes mistakes as does any driver no matter how good they are.
Fisha695 wrote:
A 2 lap penalty is hardly penalty at all, just a slap on a wrist. If it was anyone other than him or Jr. that did the same thing, they would’ve probably been docked points and fined.
No for as long as I can remember in similar situations the penalty has been no more severe then 2 laps.
The ONLY Time I would ever see something like that resulting in loss of points or fines would be if 1, bystanding cars were involved, or 2, If an safety team member was hit/injured because of it.
I couldn’t understand a thing Montoya said after the wreck. He sounded like Ricky Ricardo on “I Love Lucy”. And he had some “splaining” to do!
ROWDY BUSH wrote:
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Actually mcmurrays teammate Greg Biffle, said that it was mcmurrays fault as did MW. So it was not JRs bonehead move! I doubt biffle would take someones side who was not his teammate if it were not true.
SAM
Was that on inside nextel cup im going to watch it now, but no matter what anyone says you can clearly see jr had more of his car on the off the track, but im curious to see what mike and the biff had to say so ill be back
ROWDY BUSH wrote:
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Yes, it was a good show. I won’t mess it up for you, so enjoy.
Fisha695 wrote:
What about a couple weeks ago at Richmond when Waltrip got parked for the race when Mears took him out and as the race went under caution he picked Mears’ tires up and pushed him down the straightaway? Basically hit him under yellow in retaliation and got penalized however many laps remained in the race.
SAM
Yeah they did say it was jamies fault, well biffle said it was a racing deal but waltrip said it was jamie mcmurrays fault. But like biffle said he throws his hand out the window and like mikey said we dont know what happened before that incident that led to that, we dont know if jr was waving them off or at last second decided to pit also he could have waved and jamie didnt see or just didnt think he would catch him that quick.
JEFF,
I dont think that was under caution either way I was at that race and over all the other cars wide open you hear mikeys standing on the throttle and literally pyle driving mears into the wall, rubbing somebody and getting a donut on a door is one thing, turning a guy is worse, but intentionally driving a guy into a wall is just wrong
Andrew wrote:
If you like F1 so much why are you here? F1 is not an american sport so i could care less but then again i have never liked open wheel racing.
GEORGE
Even though my man smoke has an open wheel back ground and I went to the IRL race this weekend in richmond I couldnt agree with you more. Open wheel is borin and no fun although F1 even though there is no racing in this series those cars are amazing and the fact the drivers are able to hold onto them is even more amazing, with that said your right they are boring series
Jeff wrote:
It may still be retaliation but there is a difference between turning into somebodies quarter to spin them at 55mph, and pushing a car at 80mph into the wall.
George Thompson wrote:
Because I live in Indianapolis and you sort of have to know a little bit about it?
And just because its not American doesnt mean you shouldnt care.
Thats a rather stupid reason not to like something.
George Thompson wrote:
Because I live in Indianapolis and you sort of have to know a little bit about it?
And just because its not American doesnt mean you shouldnt care.
Thats a rather stupid reason not to like something.
ROWDY BUSH wrote:
JPM intentionally turned Kyle towards the wall at 55MPH on Sunday. Luckily the car caught and came back down on JPM. During a caution, no less, which I would think NASCAR would take pretty seriously since track and safety workers are on the move the second the yellow flies.
At RIR, Mears pinched Mikey into the wall, and I would assume that’s when the caution came out because it was pretty significant wreckage. After they got together, Mikey hit the gas, got on Mears and pushed him down the front stretch, which sent him towards the wall at all of 55MPH or so. He scraped the wall and it did no more damage to his car than he had done with that idiotic move that started the whole thing.
No matter how stupid and dangerous Waltrip’s thing was, it wasn’t any different than what JPM did this weekend. I guess when it’s Mikey they don’t have a problem sitting him for the race, but when JPM uses his car as an on-track weapon he takes a couple of laps off and he’s right back at it.
I can’t believe how some posters are so prejudiced! You judge Juan not for who he is but where he came from. Kyle has been peeving people off all year and most especially in the truck and Nationwide series with his style. I am not a Kyle hater. I think he’s a great talent and underneath that brash exterior I think there is a very good and decent young man. However, Kyle has peeved many off and Juan is just one who won’t take it. Martin Truex said he wrecked him this year but he didn’t retalliate.I am glad Kyle stopped the silliness driving all the races he looks extremely tired in his post race interview and what was with him not even congratulating his brother in his interview? Said he won the race the wrong way. A win is a win.
things i can’t beleive
1 kyle has a fan!
2 people beleiving it was jr’s fault!! (pit row)
THINGS YOU SHOULD BELEIVE!!!!!!!!!!
1.Kyle might not have fans but he is a better driver then Jr.
2.PIT ROW might not have been completely his fault but Im sure he might have been capeable of doing a lil more to make people aware he was pitting!
ROWDY BUSH wrote: