The following Montgomery Advertiser article makes the argument that NASCAR’s influx of foreign drivers will eventually kill NASCAR:
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People automatically gravitate toward things they’re comfortable with and people they can easily relate to. That’s a huge reason why stock car racing became so popular in the South to start with. And it’s a big reason why people around here never watched open-wheel racing.
The guys in the garage in the old NASCAR were like the shade-tree guy down the block who could get 15 more horsepower out of a lawnmower. The guys behind the wheel were like the guys you could find any Friday or Saturday night at a dozen different dirt tracks. They all talked like the folks around here. They looked like the folks around here. We knew these guys.
And we knew their cars. Because they were the same kind of cars we could buy at the car lots on East Boulevard.
People in the South could relate to all of it. And on the backs of these fans, the France family built an empire.
But ever so slowly over the last several years, they’ve been moving the sport as far away from those loyal fans as they can get.
Mark my words: It’s going to backfire.
All the nonsense that’s involved now is turning off the sport’s core constituency. Drivers jumping from team to team, the crazy owners buying up half the field, the closing of historic tracks, it’s changing the average NASCAR fan, a guy who used to be so loyal that he grew an Earnhardt-like mustache and shopped only at NASCAR sponsors, into the casual NASCAR fan.
That’s just a step away from being an indifferent NASCAR fan.
The sport is eventually going to need these fans. When all the newcomers have tired of stock car racing, when the novelty has worn off, NASCAR will come looking for the people who will fill the stands here today.
And they’ll be off somewhere trying to figure out what they can do with $8,000 worth of worthless Budweiser No. 8 memorabilia.
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And the point of this article is…? Its called Evolution!
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1. any process of formation or growth; development: the evolution of a language; the evolution of the airplane.
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Fisha695 wrote:
Something smell fishy about your response. The point is not evolution, the point is that nascar is going away from the base fans who made the sport. Most of the new fans will not stay with nascar, they will abandon the sport and do the next big thing.
Then nascar will come back to the base.
These so called new fans are just the next evoloution of fans. Openwheel only fans will still only watch openwheel racing, and NASCAR only fans will still watch NASCAR only. I guess what I am getting at is, yes these new drivers will bring over their respective fans, however they will not bring over all openwheel fans. Personally I a fan of all auto racing, if it has 4 wheel and an engine I’ll watch it race; and I think there are alot more fans like that then their are NASCAR only/Openwheel only, etc…
I gotta throw in with Sam on this one, To A lot of folks, This is just A fad, With lots of money being made marketing our sport, When the next in thing comes along, those folks will follow the trend. Stock Car Racing will go on, and we’ll go on watching, At least until NASCAR starts issuing Race Ready Cars, Thats when I get out
Really NASCAR is no diffrent then it has been though, its just a diffrent generation. Anybody remember when F1 and CART winner Mario Andretti came to NASCAR and won the Daytona 500? NASCAR is an open series, drivers from other forms of racing have always and will always come to NASCAR. As far as in this article were it says about drivers changing teams and stuff; That has nothing to do with NASCAR, that has to do with the drivers all being over-paid male divas. As far as people only using NASCAR sponsors products, well take all the car sponsors across the board for NASCAR and then all the sponsors that are “Official” NASCAR sponsors (list at NASCAR.com) and you could support all those sponsors and buy everything you would ever need to live.
Owners buying half of the field, NASCAR is trying to stop that and that is a good thing, the way its stated in this article makes it seem like what NASCAR is doing is a bad thing.
Closing of tracks. I hate to tell ya, but go back to the begining of autoracing and count the number of tracks that have come and gone, everybody has favorite tracks and unfortunetly you will never be able to race at everybodies favortie track. That is a Sport wide problem not a NASCAR specific one.
NASCAR and the things they are doing is not changing the “Average” NASCAR fan, the access we have to NASCAR is. 10 years ago you had the people that knew alot about the sport, and you had the people that were casual fans. Today you still have that its just the gap between being a diehard fan and being a casual fan has gotten bigger because the diehard fans will visit websites (much like this one) to find out racing news, and rules, and controversies, while the casual fans like they always have will not know about that stuff untill they hear about it during the pre-race.
So my original point about this just being evolution is true, except its not really the evolution of NASCAR (or any series) its the evolution of the ease of access to information about NASCAR (or any series) that is spreading the gap between the casual and diehard fans.
Sure there is things that NASCAR could do to help close that gap ;publish their rulebook online like the FIA/SCCA/ALMS/Grand-Am/etc…); but when it boils down to it, its nothing more then evolution.
The article gives a solid point. Just like when poker started to show up on TV you had every Tom, Dick and Harry playing Texas Hold Em’. NASCAR is the same way and will be on its knees in a few years looking for those once loyal fans.
My opinion?
I can see where SOME foreign drivers would improve fan-base … but honestly? With the amount of foreign drivers coming into this sport THIS YEAR ALONE–nascar would be overtaken within no-time.
That’s sad, really.
I completely agree with you Mike B. It’s just sad that it’s going to happen that way.
Katelyn wrote:
That’s my opinion too. A few is fine, but a few in ONE year.
It just makes me fear a whole new wave are going to jump
ship to Nascar. Then it will be eventually racing internationaly.
I just hope it doesn’t change much from what it is now.
Another definition of evolution: A bullshit belief that science created the Earth and the Universe, and humans evolving from apes.
I say let these foreigners keep coming into NASCAR. Give them a chance. They’re all going to show JPM how to race w/ out being a dickhead.
Sure, it’s hurting already. I hear people all the time talking about how commercialized it is. How long have they been doing that lame High-Five? They can’t speak freely on their own radios now. Rules are fine, the race for the chase is fine too, but Wasted Management became a major sponsor a few years ago then we have this…whatever you call it happening where the africna-americans are almost being forced into the sport. They turned Skynyrd into a rap song, have a black line of clothing, etc. Someone way up the line is pushing race into the equation. If someone is “qualified” to race, more power to them. I don’t care what race or nationallity they are.
A few years ago, someone said that before too long, they’ll be telling what drivers what car they can drive. Well, we’re not far from that now since they have no option about the COT. They use it or don’t race.
The roots are almost gone. The new crowd who is on the bandwagon are falling right into the commercial side of Nascar.
OK, well How Dumb Is That, of course a REDNECK (Like Myself) Based sport with deep roots back east and in the south, will be primarily WHITE Caucasian AMERICANS, YEEEHHAAAWWWW Representin The Rebel Flag, haha, Of course some of us will be pissed, ill stick to straight world of outlaws dirt if nascar dont work out.
I was wondering why I haven’t been as interested lately. Everything just seems so different from even when I first started watching in 2002. Which wasn’t that long ago. But things are definitely a lot different.
Agreed on the last bit, Andy. I already do because it hasn’t worked out at all, actually.
The thing is, most of the drivers now-a-days AREN’T the good ol boys referred to in this article. They’re uppety, rich PR d__chebags. So what does it matter if they race open wheel cars or stock cars? It doesn’t. So it doesn’t matter if the open wheel guys come to Nascar. They’re all the same at this point anyway.
OK, my 2 cents.
1) COT: geat IDEA, bad excution. a camry/impala/fusion/avenger should LOOK (not painted) like their showroom counterpart. this means they have their own sheetmetal. right now, the only differences are minute. There was a time when a vehicle USED to be unique. Anyone remember the Dodge Charger Daytona? when manufacturers released ONLY 500 cars JUST to be able to race on sundays!
2) Sponsors: screw “Exclusivity” agreements. in a way, they violate Anti-trust/Monopoly/Competition laws. If there was ONLY sprint cell service, the gov’t would have a field day breakin it up, like they did with the Baby Bells. its not fair to others if only one business in a certain type (Sprint, or nationwide, etc) is allowed to be a sponsor, AND it will force MORE money to be spent by teams trying to “lure” that sponsor over to their organization. by opening it up, more sponsors dumping money into the sport and more teams competing to qualify
3) Qualifying: 43 spots in the field. up for grabs. every weekend. NO catering to the owners. force them to step up their game EVERY week. so what if your driver fails to make the show. most will STILL watch. and their driver/team will do their DAMNEST to make the show the following week. this will also give single car teams a chance to maybe win a championship.
4) FANS: ok, NASCAR can grow w/out losing their fan base. if they let the fastest 43 guys race, i think we’d see more diverse fields, and MORE fans would be represented. the Shop teacher whose class makes a car that passes tech could win. Thats OLD NASCAR. and then, if an open wheeler wanted to race one weekend, and makes the fastest 43, BAM, he gets to race. THE CURRENT way is alienating to other types of racing fans.
More for money hungry Nascar.
Busch wanted out thats cool fine what ever, sad to see them go.
But Nationwide is not in for next season, again fine, Busch didn’t want to re-sign and after looking Nationwide signed on.
Problem Nationwide being dicks and giving Gico 2 years to get out.
No grandfather claus like with Attel in Cup. Gico has 2 years to get out.
They(Gico) better fight this now, or in 2 years, and sue Nationwide (like AT&T suing Nextel.)
Corparte Nascar Sucks.
If Dale Sr. was still alive I beleive things would be different he wouldn’t stand for Todays Nascar. He’ll complain like he did when they changed the Cars and the 500 was just 1 line for pretty much the full 200 laps cause you couldn’t pass.
I just feel bad for up and coming stock car drivers around the country that will never get a seat in a top ride because some open wheeler wants to try Nascar. It’s not just the fans that Nascar is in danger of alienating, but also the drivers. Most drivers around the country can barely afford to race, but they hang on to make ends meet chasing a dream. But they will start to ask themselves what’s the point of chasing a dream that isn’t going to come true because some open wheeler might just snatch it. This will lead to less stock car drivers, thus leading to the quality of driver being regulated to those who can afford it. Those may not be the best drivers. And these open wheelers don’t even have to work for a ride or earn it. Just show up like Jacques what’s his name, and here you a go, a ride at Talladega. Truly ridiculous.
Wow all you openwheel “haters” must not be true racing fans. RACING IS RACING NO MATTER WHAT THE CARS LOOK LIKE. Oh and lets not forget NASCARs oldest division is an Openwheel division.
NASCAR is not killing its roots because of foreign (gasp!) drivers. That would be team owners if one must point a finger anywhere. NASCAR will be and is its own demise. My favorite example is COT and every single thing we nag about week in and week out. Examples: rulings/penalties/guidelines, the Chase (although most have warmed up to it), bad ticket sales in its “roots” areas, and too much special interests in the sport. NASCAR is the government and sponsors and owners are the lobbyists. (Mostly sponsors, of course.)
Who knows how Dario will actually do. Hornish can drive the wheels off of an IRL car but he has failed to qualify the last 3 weekends. In my opinion, (and pretty much fact) Hornish is a better driver. As suspected, Montoya is doing great and give Villeneuve a chance and he will as well. Sooo… that’s 2, possibly 3 foreign drivers. Big deal. The Driver for Diversity plan pretty much failed so I suppose it’s on to something more realistic. (Not counting Allmendinger because he should not be in NASCAR). Owners choose who they want in their cars. If they feel an experienced racer in a high-level setting will do better than a 20 year old up-and-comer, they will take the experienced driver (that is much better sponsor-bait). These guys have proved themselves in their respective leagues and have been sought after by teams. Kudos to them!
NASCAR has already peaked. It had it’s bump of being the biggest, badest popular new sport and it’s slowly leveling (declining) back to normal.
IF IT AIN’T BROKE DONT FIX IT.
its as simple as that. And i couldn’t agree with this article any more. what sport has the ability to travel around the country for all but 3 months of the year and manage to fill over 100,000 at every single event? NASCAR fans are more loyal then any other fan so why would you try and incorporate new fans, new things that nobody likes. NASCAR is as american as baseball, infact its more american. Now you bring in foreign cars, foreign drivers, into a sport where they dont belong. even still, nascar is STOCK CAR racing..these cars arnt even close to stock anymore..its only a matter of time where nascar falls back to the way it was when it first started
Toyota
Foreign Drivers
Rap singers singing the national anthem
closing historic tracks
making every car the exact same
and basically cutting all ties to how it started, never burn your bridges nascar, but i think its almost too late
Nascar will get its bubble burst, the money will dry up, the sponsors will leave 1 by 1 and the schedule will be shortened to 30 races, mostly southern tracks. Just give it 5-10 years.
I know of one good driver, this kid in tennessee named farrell builds engines, has won 17 of 25 on dirt, asphalt, and scca road courses, on mostly borrowed or leased equipment. The losses are usually from bein wrecked by lapped cars or bad mechanical luck. Our team has run against him and we’ve run against alot of the development drivers, this kid puts Logano to shame, but he refuses to run for other people and funds himself. He is currently crew chiefing for a friends dirt team, we see him every weekend and apparently he is building a 69 mustang scca gt1 class race car and looking to build a Busch car for 2010 to run himself.
You people do relize that when NASCAR was started it was called NASCAR International.
“We” constantly say that NASCAR is the best form of racing in the world, then why dont “we” want some of the best proven drivers in the world to come race in this “league”?
If you look at the places where the teams are getting their drivers from it changes every few years. Remember when drivers were coming from the Modifieds, then it went to Sprints/Midgets, then it went to Motocross racers, now its at Openwheel drivers. Within 5 years the cycle will start all over again. People dont like “new fans”, well old fans only last so long and then they die. At one time you were a “new fan”, and before that your parents/grandparents were “new fans”.
No matter if you like it or not NASCAR is a business, and in todays world economy the way to make money is to cater to the younger generations. If you ran a business you would understand that, but its obvious that none of you run your own business just by the remarks you make.
Toyota.. Whats the big problem..? Lets see Ford & GM are laying off US Citizens left and right, Dodge is on life support, but Toyota is hiring more US Citizens a month then the majority of “US Companies” do in a year. US Companies look outside the USA for work, and all that does is make citizens of other countries richer while making ours poorer. But guess what Toyota is coming to the USA giving US Citizens jobs.
I talked about the “Historic” tracks earlier. Oh and BTW NASCAR doesnt close the tracks, as NASCAR does not own any tracks. the track owners close the track. SMI closed North Wilkesborro, NOT NASCAR; ISC closed Nazareth because Roger Penske didnt pay taxes on the track for years and when ISC bought it they were forced to either pay the back taxes of close it. GUESS WHAT THEY DID THE SMART BUSINESS DECISION.
You people crack me up when you blame NASCAR which is a SANCTIONING BODY for the actions of companies that do business with NASCAR.
i’ve been in the whole racing scence since i could remember the cars were not all the same . yuo could go out to the dealer ship the petty or donnie allison drove the next day. now the cars all look alike just the stickers on them say different. it’s sad i’ve been into nascar all my life and this year it’s just got so boring i wne t and built my own dirt track car to see if i still like racing and dirt track is more fun than asphalt bvecasue it’s never the same drivers up front every single weekend
we dirt track races ae the true racers becasue are cars don’t look alike.
still a nascar fan just not as much anymore.
Its the point of opinion that these open wheel guys come to NASCAR because they can make more money then in their struggling open wheel series. They may be accomplished in those series but they havent put in the blood sweat and tears like guys do from the Busch series all the way down to your weekly series. They dont know how hard it is to make it in stock car racing.
Every week I go to my local track and watch the real guys race. They guys who have a 4 person family they bring to the track week in and week out. They family’s who mortgage houses to chase a dream. The people who sacrifice things of need and want just for that chance to race for the weekend. Guys who carry up to 3 jobs to support their racing dreams. Teams who travel states to race.
But what do we tell these guys who work hard to reach their goals of moving into an elite series of NASCAR? “Sorry guys no one wants to give you a chance because there’s a bunch of open wheel guys who wanna try stock car. Even though they know nothing about it”? You need to look at the bigger picture. When NASCAR alienates their main group of fans and racers and ends up falling on its face who’s going to save it? Certainly not the Johnny Come Lately fans who will move on to the next big thing just because its “cool” and on T.V., like pumpkin smashing (watch out lets see how hard we can smash those pumpkins). You can notice that those fans are already getting turned off, just look at the T.V. ratings.
The death march has begun.
i’ve been watching since the first year the chase was introduced… and im still loving every minute of the racing…. i like the cot races more so than i do the older cars. Me im a fan of juan pablo, jamie mcmurray, ryan newman, Mikey Waltrip.. I dont know call me strange but I cant get enough of nascar or stock cars for that matter. just cause theres a wing and the car is bulkier dosent mean its not stock car racing. look at the old car petty use to drive w the big big big wing on the back…. no one complained then. i just think people like to complain.. tv ratings fluxsuate (dont mind my spelling i suck) look at the WWE or WWF 7 years ago they had the most watched cable program on tv now there back to there normal ratings of when they werent peaking just like nascar. trust me people still watch and if you stop watching just cause of a new car or a few f1, indy drivers coming. then you dont actually love the sport…… i dont care but id rather watch any nascar race than a boring ass baseball game…. at least the drivers are down to earth and have much more personality than most other athletets… just my 2 cents
This is true to the base. Anyone who thinks otherwise does not fully understand or are a part of the cool to be a NASCAR fan crowd. There is a ton of bad decisions being made in the sport. It definately will not be the NASCAR we all have lived for and enjoyed. The roots are dying the only life to come out of this is a new seedling growing out of a cut stump. It will live and be successful but its a whole different species. On the other hand if we’re lucky all these open wheel guys who seem to me to not succeed will leave and our favorite drivers with talent and core audience identification will remain. My idea lets all go dirt racing for a few years and let them whacks bankrupt the sport then come back and show them what the fans want!
Ever watch Field of Dreams???? “If you build it,… they will come!”
They see that NASCAR is the most favored,.. they want a piece of it. NASCAR is bigger than ever, doesn’t mean they will be bigger than ever right along with it. We all have our favorite drivers, we all love the sport, some may be wagon jumpers,… but us TRUE FANS will last throughout the changes, and we will respect those changes.
Just think of those new guys as someone in the back of the pack,… they will never be as good or as big as JR, Jeff, Tony or Jimmie.
Keep loving your sport, and the wagon jumpers will fade away like they have always proved themselves to do!
I totally agree with Richard
I have been a Nascar fan for 30 years. Nascar is huge because of the good ole boy fan base has built it to be huge. I don’t think the influx of open wheel drivers is what is killing Nascar, I think Brian France in his idea of screw the good ole boy I want the whole world to give me more money is what is killing Nascar. I have been saying for years Nascar is going down the tubes thanks to 1 the Chase, 2 the COT, 3 the Drive for Diversity Program and 4 the Sponsors (meaning all the ad sh** on everylap and thanks to so forth, all you hear is a sponsor name through the whole race). Nascar has gotten to money hungry. And Nascar is the sanctioning body, but they should be blamed because they are the sanctioning body owned by the France family and the new generation of that family is killing what granddad built.
I never thought I would say it but I am truly sick of Nascar and may stop watching. I have loved this sport as long as I remember but I hate what it has become. It will lose its loyal good ole boy fan base and be stuck with a failing race league just like the open wheel. Just like they said on the race sunday will the last open wheel driver turn out the lights when you leave, they will be saying that to Nascar one day. I just hope someone else will start a REAL STOCK CAR RACING series again and bring back true racing. (I know you have your local tracks, but I like the big tracks, not just 1 mile plus but the whole shabang of Nascar and the spending the whole weekend at track and loving every minute of it)
ok here it is. im a diehard nascar fan. but nascar is an american sport. half of the drivers and fans today doesnt even know how nascar got started. to me if you dont know the background of the sport then you dont need to race. i dont believe that nascar is going to loose its fans in a couple of years. yes you have all the fans that just follow the latest trend. but there have been fans like that since the beginning. as far as the top 35 in points being locked into a race thats bs let all the drivers battle it out. that is nothing more than a trick to make sure drivers like jeff gordon, jimmie johnson, tony stewart, dale jr, and kasey kahne (although he is my favorite) race. im sure nascar fans would like it more if there was more competition in the sport. as far as impound races go ALL of the cars would have the race set up. there wouldnt be anymore repeats of this week, with the so called “go or go homers” being 5 of the top 6 qualifiers. it would be a race to see who is the fastest. thats what nascar is all about. and yes nascar is becomming commercialized, what sport isnt. i mean look at football you have peyton manning in every other commercial. and my favorite driver has at least 8 commercials out of his own but heck all the drivers are in commercials and that is their way to give back to their sponsors and ensure that even if they have a not so hot year on the track that they will still be getting advertisment.
bogity bogity bogity Hola!
Fisha695 wrote:
Just for the record, I appreciate the tone of your comments. I think this is a good debate and you are representing your opinion well. I disagree with you about the fan base and its support. The “old” type of nascar fan was very loyal to its drivers sponsers. Many studies have reported this fact. The new type of fan goes for what ever is hot now and does not seem to be as loyal. I don’t think they will stay with the sport. They are not race fans per se, they follow the trends. Real race fans will never leave nascar unless the COT destroys racing. I will probably still watch because I love it. Although, I will say that I no longer watch the race from begining to end, unless it is raining at home.
What does fisha695 stand for?
NASCAR has become to commercial…
When you have an Insurance Company sponsering racing you know it’s all about money…
Where has the love of the sport gone??? How many NASCAR drivers are going to tell you they are 100% still racing NASCAR for the love? Its all about the money and contract. Take Tony for example, you can tell he’s fed up with the press all he wants to do is cuss at them. He wants to be left alone and just race and forget the politics. Its like a big soap opera. Ever go to a local track and watch the local guys? They are just out there having fun. They dont worry about contracts and politics. That’s where these guys came from. Your local tracks. Do you ever see these forgein guys who dont speak english at your local tracks? NO! So therefore all your good old fans arnt going to be drawn on to support a forgien driver who’s head is as big as is a**…
NASCAR needs to get back to BASICS…
lol ok let me ask you somthing fisha has Evolution ever been good?
same with the foreign cars.
nuff said.
Half of you sound like the ‘They took our jobs’ guys on South Park. Meaning, total idiots.
If NASCAR is so popular because we can relate to the drivers and the cars look like our own…..
Why is Formula One so popular across the globe?
Do people in the UK & China & Brazil drive F1 cars?
I don’t look or sound like Lewis Hamilton but I can relate to him.
And I don’t look like Tony Stewart but I can relate to him too.
Racing is racing, it shouldn’t matter if you understand what the driver is saying or if the driver looks like you or even if you buy all their sponsor products or not. Actually, if that is all that kept you focused on racing, you were focusing on the wrong thing. Just enjoy racing. It’s not that hard.
People still watch South Park?
I hate tony stewart #24fan here wrote:
No matter if its Dirt of Asphault the only classes were they cars dont look alike is the Hobby/pro/street/strictly/junkyard/boneyard stock classes. Latemodels look pretty much all the same, and so do modifieds. Then you got sprints and midgets with minor diffrences between the cars.
Rockingham was one of the toughest tracks
since NASCRAP closed it I havent had interest
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Oct 8th, 2007 at 9:24 pm Quote
More for money hungry Nascar.
Busch wanted out thats cool fine what ever, sad to see them go.
But Nationwide is not in for next season, again fine, Busch didn’t want to re-sign and after looking Nationwide signed on.
Problem Nationwide being dicks and giving Gico 2 years to get out.
No grandfather claus like with Attel in Cup. Gico has 2 years to get out.
They(Gico) better fight this now, or in 2 years, and sue Nationwide (like AT&T suing Nextel.)
Corparte Nascar Sucks.
If Dale Sr. was still alive I beleive things would be different he wouldn’t stand for Todays Nascar. He’ll complain like he did when they changed the Cars and the 500 was just 1 line for pretty much the full 200 laps cause you couldn’t pass.
I have read most of the articles. I Want to point out HOW much I agree with:
{ Corparte Nascar Sucks.} THis more than anything else mentioned is driving the bullshit we all dislike.
Foreign drivers fine/ toyota I kinda understand/ I mean Most other racing IRL offroad etc there is any make of vehical .
However there are no harleys in motocross ! So why not have only american cars in nascar
I think this is what everyone refers to when they say southern/eastern roots. Not THe KKK rebel flag or any other neg. stuff. Guys facts are this is a sign of how weak we have become. THe country we fought in the past is kickin our butts in our country fair and square . WE are the ones buying um.
So the best thing is drive better build stronger teams , make it worth while for teams to stick together instead of jumping ship and beat em on the track.Ford ran at lemans back in the day against all odds and one. Seems any one with the cash should be able to go in circles.
Money talks and when the band wagon fans leave they will have to change the format to attract the ones who enjoyed it before. Thats all I have to say about that later
i say nascar is kiling nascar, but i dont like all these open racers coming in and knocking out our guys who been racing for years, and it cant be about the money indy and formula make plenty of money, i think this sucks.. nascar is having more strict rules and every year it gets worse.ratings all ready droped and the races are even boring nore then it has ever ben this year i was even disapointed in bristol, i been finding myself falling asleep during a race, i been watching nascar since i was a little girl , i see alot of fans going to quit watching next year. i think to me nascar is suppose to be american sport and its not anymore. next year i wont know whos where or whos in what car,. thank you nascar for screwing everything up..
Why do we need all of these IRL drivers we have a lot of good drivers now that are on dirt tracks
that would love to drive for nascar let the IRL drivers stay in the IRL Nascar was started in the
south from bootleg runner’s Nascar should remmber that the fan dooooooo