Comments on: Harvick wins wild Busch race in Montreal, Gordon creates controversy

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:03:32 +0000

I never really cared for Robby Gordon, until Montreal. Way to stir the pot. As for Ambrose, I think his surprisingly good attitude after the race was because he knew he had it coming after spinning Gordon out durning a yellow. Probably something like, “Oooops, now I’m going to get it.”

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:20:52 +0000

About the black flag: the driver has three laps to come in, that’s the NASCAR rule!!!

Like Robbie said - precidence of previous rulings would have him lining up in 1st. Or second, if the scoring loop was further back on the track.

NASCAR’s hatchet boy Pemberton needs an enema and I need some tall boots!!!!

By: gigolo george

gigolo george — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:19:00 +0000

Robby was pissed because HE WAS SPUN DURING A YELLOW/CAUTION PERIOD. NASCAR changed their scoring a few times during that yellow. They said Robby was to line up first on the restart. Then they came back and said to put him second on the restart. Then they really screwed around and had the black flag fiasco. NASCAR created the problem but Robby paid the price. NASCAR disqualified Robby because he didn’t obey the black flag deal. Again, they created the situation. These drivers do not have rights. None of ‘em!! NASCAR is the judge, jury and executioner. The appeal process is a joke. NASCAR will always govern and police themselves and that’s not fair to us, the drivers, sponsors or teams. That Earnhardt autopsy crap REALLY worked out, didn’t it? They fine and dock drivers points for crap after the race which is wrong ( radio, tv). The mandatory media crap after the races isn’t fair. They should be on their own time AFTER an event unless they signed a contract to do otherwise. NASCAR decisions are starting to look like Bud Selig’s. You know Bud. He f*cked up MLB. That’s another example of why NASCAR won’t allow unions in. They’d lose power.

By: Dave

Dave — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:05:28 +0000

Gordon was in 1st place when the yellow flag came out & Ambrose spun him out of the way. NASCAR has dropped the ball yet ANOTHER time!!!

No wonder that attendance & viewership are both taking a nosedive.

I have been a NASCAR fan since 1965 but NASCAR is becoming just another sport run by authoritarian boobs.

If I wanted to watch IROC I would watch IROC. NASCAR is so far away from its roots, mandating shocks, springs, gears, etc; and using cars that were never produced for consumers (2 door Charger & Taurus, templates that fit NO “stock” cars), I don’t think it will ever be able to get back to real “stockcar” racing agian!!!

I hope Robbie has the ‘nads to tell NASCAR “up yours” and find a sport where the drivers are again the stars and not simply the mules that the officials make jump through idiotic hoops.

Yellow liquid on NASCAR & the brown-nosing networks that have so commercialized the sport that we now have commercials for the commercials!!!

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:59:56 +0000

Nascar should have gave Robby #1 back.
The yellow was out and he got run over UNDER YELLOW!!!!as per Nascars lame ass rule when the yellow is out you slow down. Marcos didn’;t cause he is a moron who doesn’t know the rules of Nascar and his stupid team never told him.
Nascar is also stupid and should have gave robby back 1st as that is where he was when the yellow came out. He can see the yellow flag waving when stupid Marcos run him over.

I’m glade Robby lined up in 2nd and ran his ass over he deserved it.
Ringers should learn the damn rules and follow them or get off the damn track.

Nascar should also learn their own damn rules and give drivers the spot where they should be. If anyone should have went back to 18th it should have been Marcos for not follow nascars rule of slowing down when the yellow comes out.

By: Mel

Mel — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:39:50 +0000

WORDS BY THE ESPN REPORTS !!

So NASCAR, where were you during the Caution ???????????? R. Gordon was leading the race and Ambrose took R. Gordon out. That tells me Ambos should have Been BLACK FLAGGED,

Caution was OUT…..

Robby Gordon, WON the Race. NASCAR IS SO in Left Field, ESPN, showed it twice, as Ambose spins R. Gordon during Caution, as R. Gordon is Leading, thus putting Gordon as Leader, NOT in 14th spot.

Why do the films show other wise to what NASCAR is saying ??????????????????????????????

By: tracey

tracey — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:42:01 +0000

I WAS WATCHING THE RACE WHEN ALL THIS HAPPEN BY WHAT I SEEN ROBBY WON THE RACE FAIR AND SQUARE

By: Diane

Diane — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:42:37 +0000

When the caution came out Robby was in the LEAD and then ambrose spun him out. Why wasn’t ambrose blacked flag-I mean he crash him under caution. If this was Jr. everyone would think he did the right thing. Robby comes out and signs autographs for everyone and never makes you stand in line to get tickets and then again to get an autograph. I think it is wrong to suspend him because he thought he was doing the right thing. Would nascar have given the spot back if it was say johnson, or jeff gordon, think so. I think that nascar needs to be fair across the board. How could robby keep the speed when he was spun out on purpose under a caution by a creep who wanted to pass him when robby slowed down for the same caution. Go get them Robby hope you win your case. from a big Robby Gordon fan and proud of it.

By: marc

marc — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:37:54 +0000

Jackie:

“He’s being suspended from tomorrows race which ,even as a fan, I say he deserves. And if anyone ever watches NASCAR at all…”

Reading minds again? So tell me, how could you possibly now what hasn’t happened yet? Here’s the latest, just so you can keep up:

“It’s fair to say we’re still evaluating [his status for] tomorrow’s race,” NASCAR Vice President of Racing Operations Steve O’Donnell said Saturday night. “We’re still talking about what’s going to take place in Pocono. At this point, it’s too early to tell.”

If he’s suspended for the Cup event it won’t be announced until Sunday morning. Sooo… where do you get you rumors from. And more to the ooint why do you spread them as if they are fact?

“RG”, you one of the few that have it right. Everyone wants to whine about when the yellow was out and who was ahead or not ahead.

Well D’OH, enjoy your Homer Moment. As RG notes the yellow is meaningless, the order reverts to what it was at the last scoring loop.

By: Jackie

Jackie — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:57:04 +0000

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Thank you Andrew… it’s a friggin’ mafia.

By: andrew

andrew — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:58:10 +0000

no rg the cleanup crew took their time
because it is all part of nascars grand
conspiracy remember?
: )

By: RG

RG — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:50:19 +0000

it shouldnt take 5 caution laps at 30 mph on a 2.7mile course to clean up a little leaked oil and debris, the clean up crew there needed to be alittle more on their game today…

By: just an observer

just an observer — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:37:52 +0000

have to say that was a wild race. i have always like robby because he was the under dog, but i think he even pushed it to the limit today. he is a heck of a road racer but he blew it today. ambrose was a class act in his interview and its a shame the last few laps hadn’t been raced clean so we could see who the real winner was. i say let the cup go to canada and see what sparks or parts fly!

By: RG

RG — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:36:57 +0000

its not the previous one, its the next one, because the leader had passed the previous one before the caution was thrown so it defaults to the next one as to who is leading, the field can be judged on previous loops, but the leader must be scored on the next loop if a lead change has taken place, same reason dale jr didnt win at talladega even tho he crossed the finish line and technically finished the race after vickers wrecked him from behind…so you cannot say nascar is doing it their way, they are being consistent…

By: RG

RG — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:08:32 +0000

look for the last time, the field is frozen based on when the leader crosses the next scoring loop, they had not passed the upcoming loop yet even tho the yellow was out, gordon crossed that scoring loop in 12th place, so technically and officially it was perfectly legit for ambrose to be in first and gordon 12th, nascar didnt just pick a number and say yeah lets put him here…and ambrose was paying back gordon who jumped the curb in turn 2 and got into ambroses rear hard in 3 and 4, ambrose did the same thing but it just happened to spin robby out…for the last time, ambrose crossed the next scoring loop in 1st and gordon crossed in 12th…thats all it boils down too…

By: upshift

upshift — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:36:09 +0000

how come nobodys talking about Ambrose spinning Robby during a yellow, and what a bad guy he must be to do that. I like Robby, suport him, even bought a hat in Chicago, but what he did is wrong ( we all have seen other Nascar drivers do it on last laps on short tracks) but Nascar was wrong on trying to put him back too many spots. I’m glad neither driver won but am hoping robby could win an apeal. he won’t! Paul Tracy still thinks he won the Indy 500

By: RG

RG — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:29:54 +0000

jp montoyas situation was different, they were going for a position, and no caution was thrown. when the caution came out ambrose(who was freight trained by gordon in the 4th turn) crossed the next scoring loop first, gordon crossed it after the 11th place car. therefore robby gordon should have restarted in 12th its as simple as that, nascar should have given robby 1 chance to change his position to the correct position or be parked for the rest of the day. Nascar is as at fault as robby gordon. THAT is the sad part. All I have to say is that Marcos Ambrose is a class act who I had the opportunity of meeting him last year along with my late model crew and he is a class guy who talked austrailian v8 racing with me for a good half hour and is about the nicest guy you will ever meet. Nascar needs more people like him and less corporate ____________ and arrogant _______…

By: sicko4stewart

sicko4stewart — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:21:10 +0000

Juan Pablo Montoya purposely spun Scott Pruitt in the Busch race earlier this year. Did nascar take that win away? NO! How can you let a guy spin someone under caution and want to pentalize the victim? Nascar is eat up with dumb @ss.

By: Jackie

Jackie — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:10:18 +0000

Hey Marc…so lovely to hear from you…
He’s being suspended from tomorrows race which ,even as a fan, I say he deserves. And if anyone ever watches NASCAR at all…you can pick out the drivers who will fight back…Robby being one, Tony Stewart being another, Jeff Gordon would, too, and the late great Dale Earnhardt would have been another. They have these 2 things called BALLS which most drivers do not have. In most cases when a driver has been black flagged, a red flag will be thrown to have the driver escorted off the track. NASCAR decided they wanted the dramatic ending.
And what the hell is up your ass that your lashing out at people? Calm down… it’s just a friggin race.

By: Odessa

Odessa — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:56:43 +0000

I don’t care what place the tape said he should of been or shouldn’t of been. What he did to Marcos was just wrong and so child like!! I hope he is thrown out of NASCAR.