There were fireworks late in the Food City 500 at Bristol Motor Speedway, but they weren’t between Kevin Harvick and Tony Stewart.
Yes, Harvick dumped Stewart in Turn 1 with two laps remaining, but the two friends weren’t exactly fighting mad at each other after the race. Their spotters? That’s another story.
While Harvick said he and Stewart will “handle” whatever controversy arose from Sunday’s incident, Harvick was upset over alleged comments made by Stewart’s spotter.
“I told my spotter to go over and tell him what happened,” Harvick said. “The first thing his spotter did was commence him to saying he was going to whip somebody’s ass. If Tony didn’t do it, he was going to do it.
“Tony and I are big boys. We can handle that. We don’t need somebody who doesn’t really have anything to do with anything [getting involved]. It really ticked me off. I’m to the point where I can talk about it. But when I got out of my car, I was more mad about that than I was anything.”
Stewart was understandably upset, for he was running second behind teammate Denny Hamlin when Harvick punted him. But the fiery Stewart was somewhat subdued after the race.
“I thought I left him plenty of room, but I don’t know,” Stewart said. “I was far enough ahead of him that I didn’t see where he hit me or when he hit me. I’m sure somehow it was my fault. I’m just sorry I got in his way.”
Stewart was likely being sarcastic, and Harvick admitted fault.
“[The race] was mine to lose at that point, and I lost it,” said Harvick, who had pitted for four fresh tires under the previous caution while Hamlin and Stewart stayed on the track. “You know, I got up under there with three or four laps to go. It’s just time to go.
“I clipped the apron, just lost the thing. If I’d have had it to do over again, I wouldn’t want to spin out. But, you know, it’s just one of those deals where I was just trying to get all I could and just got a little too far.”
And so did Stewart’s spotter, Harvick said.
“Nobody is going to have a good attitude about getting wrecked,” Harvick said. “I understand that from Tony’s standpoint. His spotter was a little out of line. I didn’t appreciate that part of it.”
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These spotters sound like half of the moms in the stands at the short track, when their baby boy (or girl) wrecks somebody, the moms go off and blame the other person and try to fight anybody and everybody, even if the drivers both agree that it was just a racing incident… l0l
Sounds like what I said earlier with Harvick being peeved at a spotter. Now we know what was said. Certainly sounds like someone who thinks their someone putting in their two cents where it didn’t belong. As usual, trying to instigate more.
What I AM wondering is why haven’t we heard WHY Truex isn’t being fined for his swearing in the nationwide race? I love how Jr got dented with 25 points that mind you.. cost him the championship…really if you had put the points back. And a ten grand fine for saying what he said on camera.. “cr@p”. But Truex blow off a “hell” and other harsh words in his remarks and nothing said. Hmm… guess they only fine the boys that are top dogs in the sport for making remarks.
Mothers instinct i suppose lol
jr88fan wrote:
I missed the Nationwide race.
Did he say something worse than “hell” cuz
that’s not that bad. lol
Neither is saying cr@p. But that’s the point. Nascar deeply frowns on ANY swearing being used by them in interviews and fined for it when they do. I think Harvick was nailed once as well. I may have that one wrong, but I know another driver after Jr had his remark and punishment done madea slip of the tongue and they got it too. I also think there was another time I heard one, but can’t remember of hearing of fines. The thing is though, that Nascar see’s it as “a family friendly environment”, so its just what they do. Personally, I don’t think its a big deal at all. I mean everything you see and hear on tv is in some way or another offensive if you get right down to it in that sense. LOL But, you would really be surprised at words far worse then that being used by 9 year olds and their parents don’t know and yet would be the first to complain hearing a word like “hell” being used. Its crazy. But, I feel that again, if nascar is going to be consistent in it rules and infraction and punishments of those, then its for all. So, with that Truex needs to get fined too.
Well I was going to say something about how what Jr said was on Broadcast tv, and the Nationwide races are on Cable… but this weeks Nationwide race was on Broadcast tv…. so that throws that out the window.
Hell really isn’t a bad word. The only really bad words you can’t say on broadcast tv are the F-word, C-words, S-word, the MF-word, and possibly the GD-word.
Oh and lets not forget Penalties are usually announced on Tuesday or Wednesday, so how do you know he isn’t getting in trouble.
What an ending to a great race! Bristol Motor Speedway. I will be racing a Legends car there on March 29/30 I feel bad for smoke, all those laps and one big whap! Still managed to finish 14th not bad. Good finish for Jr Go man go! If any of you are interested in a little history on some of the racing legends that helped build this great sport, log on to http://www.racersreunion.ning.com Enjoy, Dale Dodge Jr
Truex1fan wrote:
He said hell big deal; it isn’t any worse then tony getting out of the car and slamming Goodyear last week. You can say hell on TV now and NASCAR wants the drivers to show some personality and he was frustrated that he wrecked so early in the race. Man if this bothers you that much write a letter to your golden boy and tell him not to let Truex drive his car. But hey dock the number 5 car 25 points like they did JR. Oh wait Truex isn’t running a full nationwide schedule. So Truex gets a ten thousand dollar fine, and JR gets docked points for the number 5 Chevy, are you really asking for this? This is a non issue, moving on, man you could tell Tony was upset when he got out of the car and now the spotters are having a cat fight, god you have to love it. If tony could keep his mouth shut after the race (which I was amazed he did) the spotter needs to shut up. Pappa Joe needs to set some people straight over there at JGR. Fisha you are right my friend this sounds just like the local short tracks with the mommas duking it out for their son’s. And now with some people on these comments talking about conspiracies and drivers getting away with certain things, and cheating, you might as well be at the 105 speedway down the road(local dirt track) because you go sit in the stands around the families of the drivers and this is all you hear.
Truex1fan…
I personally don’t mind them swearing like that, its the heat of the moment and shows that they are real. Its stupid that NASCAR reigns them in so tight on how they say things. I understand it in a way, simply because it can get out of hand should the rule not be there. But, I don’t think that it would. These guys know what is expected of them when speaking out like that. They know that kids are watching, sponsors, car owners, etc and they know that when they get too out of hand with their speeches it affects the overall group and how people view them independately as role models.
That being said… Truex still should have a fine. Not because I want him to, but because the rules are the rules. And this is what my problem is with nascar. I am using Truex as an example of this only. I just don’t think its right that nascarr opts to nail one with it, but not another. And you cannot put which words on different levels of it… other then the most vulgar.. the F word and C word. But, even the minor uses they tend to use- Ie: damn, hell, crap. Are still considered swearing in overall society. So, he should get the fine as per the rules. It makes or breaks championships as we see.
And, with you saying I shouldn’t say this because Jr is the car owner and that would effect him. Well, there’s are two things wrong with that remark. One is, yes Jr is the owner, but the fine only affects the driver beings that its only him related to it. He isn’t in the car and the crew and owner have nothing to do with what is being said. The fine goes to the driver. So its money and points on the driver, not on the owner. Second thing is, even IF that was to fine the owner, Jr I am saying the same thing. So, I am not always agreeing that Jr sits on a pedastool as some people, including you think that I put him there. Its not based on whether or not I want or not want Jr to face consequences for something simply because he is my guy.
Overall my opinion is that its absolutely stupid. I hardly thin kanything IS going to be said about it, because normally we tend to hear via media early on IF a driver might be facing a fine for something. Nothing has been said. Finally, I am not using Truex as an escape goat to get you hot. I am jsut still hot over when Jr got nailed for the stupid fine he received which cost him the championsip in the end if you look at those points being put back there. So yeah, if they fine them make it money, not 25 points. But they should be making it be for everyone, not just who they want to hit and those they let slide.
How did this story get started with truex? Its about harvick just wondering,an the jr thing with points it didnt cost him he finished 138pts behind busch in standings.
I agree with Jr88fan on they shouldn’t have different
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curse words on different levels. I honestly don’t think
they should be penalized at all though. I say just let
them be. If they curse, well then let themselves ruin
their image or even their sponsors have a talk with
them. But don’t dock them points. These are grown men.
(and sometimes women
True Andy. They are grown men (and a woman here n there) But, since they DO have some stupid rule, I guess they have to do some sort of fine. But the points are WAY too much to do.
FYI:
This post kinda turned this way, only because we know that it’s not going to get a thread on its own. I just have a feeling that nothing would be noted on that and it burned me up about this double standard on it.
*He had been points leader at that time, until that time. The chase was on and he was leading, only in the like last two races did he go downhill where he did. Jr finished behind, JOHNSON not Busch. Johnson, I think got 3-4 in a row or it was the top finishes that pushed him forward. I had it figured out back then and I think it was the old point system that it was different. I had worded it wrong. I made sense back then. I don’t think I can explain it now.
That’s racin! Any damn thing can happen on the racetrack!!! Can’t really blame anyone for anything—-that’s racin!
Guest is right. That was the first decent NASCAR race of the season (at least the last few laps). Maybe, just maybe, that’s why Tony didn’t go off as usual. Not because he and Harvick are tight, but because even Stewart saw it as a “racing to win” move. He would have done the same thing.
I remember another guy in a black car that drove for Childress,he dumped plenty of guys in the last few laps and was always sorry …but he came home with the trophy while the other poor guy had to fix a wrecked car.Tony you are lucky ,you did not have to fix a wreck.
When the whole thing was over, it all comes downs to Harvick hitting Stewart and wrecking them both. Period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jr lost the 25pts in 2004 look it up oct 6th 2004 dega race.
Kevin was a man to accept his responsibility. How many others would not? Smoke and Kevin are too good of friends to let this stand in their way and I’m sure someone at JGR will tell the spotter to watch what he says over the radio. That had been a reason JGR had been reluctant to allow their drivers scanners on nascar.com etc.
Comparing what Truex Jr. said after climbing out of a wrecked race car and what the other Jr.
said 30 minutes after a races after a race was over is just silly. Likewise what Truex said
was not in the widely accepted “7 things you can’t say” mantra that the FCC uses. Dale Jr’s
s-bomb” was. Someone mentioned to me long ago, when your vocabulary count is down
around 50 or so, chances are something bad will slip out once in while. Sorry, I couldn’t
resist. I understand sticking up for your boy but the comaprison between what the two Juniors
said is lacking.
Dave
Actually it not lacking. The fact is NASCAR has a rule that hinges on this. They BOTH broke it, they both should face punishment since the rule is there. I don’t like the rule and think its stupid myself. Because were all human, but as I said before its all about the “family friendly atmosphere”.
And FYI… it was Immedietely following the race end, not some 30 mins later as you state. It was right after he got out of the car. I would say actually in less time to cool then what Truex had with him going to the med center. So come on now, be real.
By the way…. I never did hear that Truex got nailed, its Wed’s. So, there is exactly what I am talking about with Nascar not following their own rules. Its all about doing what they want when they want and not being fair to the drivers. So screw ‘em. This is why I am pretty much done, as are others with nascar. Just another thing to keep me away after this season. It adding up fast already… 5 races in. Now that’s sad.
Again saying “he11″ is NOT the same as dropping the s-bomb. There is no comparison. NASCAR’s rule mirrors the FCC rule. Get real.
Just as well, I guess that you shouldn’t take your kids to church. They might hear “Hell” there, too.
Well, if you ACTUALLY read the post before and understood them, you would see that there IS a difference. Either way, nascar frowns on the usage of swear words period! But, like I said… only a select few are going to receive penalties when they do it. Truex did not get nailed. As he should have, IF nascar were consistent, but their not.
As for the thing you said about taking the kids to church and hearing hell there.. well, that’s one of the reason’s, as MENTIONED before that kids are hearing the words everyday and using far worse at age 8-9. So its a stupid rule. Now if the F bomb and a few select words were used, now sure give ‘em the penalty, but the other words, just drop it all together unless your going to nail everyone with the rule.
And BTW– The Busch brothers BOTH have been guilty of swearing on tv as well, one of them has said a word that should be on the select list. It’s just bs that some get away with it and some don’t. That’s my beef and well, this post is pretty much over until the next one does it.
Long story short - Truex did not do anything to warrant any penalty - Lil E did. NASCAR has stated in the past that if it’s something that the FCC fowns on, they frown on it. The NASCAR rule does not call out what words are bad and words are okay but I’ve seen them dock folks for saying s— and not for hell. It is consistent.
PS: jr88fan - if you want to know what words that you can’t say on TV, listen to the George Carlin bit. That bit was inspired by the FCC along time ago (and that is on what NASCAR deemed as offensive). The S bomb is a no-no but hell is okay. Am I the only one that sees it this way?
A NO TOLERANCE POLICY exist for a reason/ If Nascar followed it’s OWN RULES then there would have been a punishment to not only Truex, but Busch bro’s for their words as well (last season). But THAT is my point, they are not consistant and tend to favor people….period. I don’t care if it was a measily “hell” or the worse of the words. No telerance means just that. nascar just can’t ever get their shit straight.
As for Carlin… I dont care, I know what he says and acts like. That has nothing to do with the rules put in place BY nascar, not fcc. The fcc has its own that every television channel “supposedly” abides by. Though its funny that we are hearing some pretty blatent terms, words used on air that are never caught/fined and that is on regular channels, not cable. So that’s a whole different deal there.
Either way… nascar is going to do it to people when they feel like and not to others because that’s just them. This is just not going to go away. BUT, I will say I told you so the next time this happens and its not one of the “favorite” boys of nascar. I mean I would love to hear Gordon, Johnson, Busch bro’s, drop one of those words and we will see that nothing will happen, yet Jr, Stewart, Edwards, Martin, etc would get nailed. Amazing. I can just see it.
I guess that we agree to disagree. Personally I just feel that you have blinders on because Dale Junior “dropped the S bomb” and got docked points and Truex didn’t. Again what Truex said is acceptable under the FCC rules and that is what BASCAR modeled their tolerances off of. If you disagree, please cintact your represenatative and have them petition the FCC to add “hell” or “shucky darned” or whatever to the disallowed rules.
Sorry I meant NASCAR not BASCAR and aontact not cintac, this form is not easy to type on.
contact. DARNED keyboard. I should lose 25 points, I said darned!
Dave in Indy
Quote “contact. DARNED keyboard. I should lose 25 points, I said darned!”
Well, I HAD appreciation for the conversation up until that last comment. That was just stupid and uncalled for. As I said BEFORE… I have NO PROBLEM with some of the words used. I thinks its stupid to have such a rule in the first place other then for the most vulgar of words that should not be said on tv… such as the F word, C word, etc. As for the other “small” less vulgar words… who cares.
It appears though you seem to think I am saying all words and now your just getting arrogant in this. So I am done with this conversation. I said what I thought it should be like and what it IS like and what Nascar is hypocritical to. So end of story.
It’s not arrogance. It’s called satire but it fits into our Truex and Earnhardt discussion very well.