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	<title>Comments on: Gordon accuses Roush Fenway of cheating on Edward&#8217;s car</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oildealer</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40163</link>
		<dc:creator>oildealer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KEEP ON CRYING JEFFIE.NAPCAR WILL MAKE IT ILLEGAL SEEING THAT YOU ARE CRYING.IF THAT HAD WORKED ON YOUR CAR IT WOULD BE FINE.GET CHAD INVOLVED ,HE LIKES ILLEGAL STUFF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KEEP ON CRYING JEFFIE.NAPCAR WILL MAKE IT ILLEGAL SEEING THAT YOU ARE CRYING.IF THAT HAD WORKED ON YOUR CAR IT WOULD BE FINE.GET CHAD INVOLVED ,HE LIKES ILLEGAL STUFF.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40158</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="40129"][quote comment="40107"]cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn't like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.[/quote]

.....spoken like a true jr. fan. Im actually still scratching my head as to what in the heck that even meant.[/quote]
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JR FAN?   I don't see that mentioned!   Some haters will use anything to rip jr or his fans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40129" title="View original comment"><cite>GordonOwnz</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40107" title="View original comment"><cite>colonel</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn&#8217;t like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.</p>
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<p>&#8230;..spoken like a true jr. fan. Im actually still scratching my head as to what in the heck that even meant.</p>
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<p>JR FAN?   I don&#8217;t see that mentioned!   Some haters will use anything to rip jr or his fans!</p>
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		<title>By: Ganjadude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ganjadude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 06:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="40129"][quote comment="40107"]cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn't like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.[/quote]

.....spoken like a true jr. fan. Im actually still scratching my head as to what in the heck that even meant.[/quote]

yeah... where in that post was Jr mentioned???

thats what I thought

go troll somewhere else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40129" title="View original comment"><cite>GordonOwnz</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40107" title="View original comment"><cite>colonel</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn&#8217;t like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.</p>
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<p>&#8230;..spoken like a true jr. fan. Im actually still scratching my head as to what in the heck that even meant.</p>
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<p>yeah&#8230; where in that post was Jr mentioned???</p>
<p>thats what I thought</p>
<p>go troll somewhere else</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>116 laps to go and carl edwards car looks like a snake comming down the straightaway.  Gibbs cars as well.  I think Jeff has a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>116 laps to go and carl edwards car looks like a snake comming down the straightaway.  Gibbs cars as well.  I think Jeff has a point.</p>
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		<title>By: doris</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40135</link>
		<dc:creator>doris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jEFF IS NOT CRYING HE IS JUST DOING THIS FOR THE BETTER OF THE RACERCAR.
 EVER NOTICE HOW THEY ALWAYS GO TO JEFF FOR A STRAIGHT ANSWER, HE HAS  
BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TAHT HE KNOWS MRE THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON. 
  HE HAS THE GUTS TO SPEAK UP WHEN THE OTHERS JUST CRY CRY CRY. 
 YOU GO JEFF .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jEFF IS NOT CRYING HE IS JUST DOING THIS FOR THE BETTER OF THE RACERCAR.<br />
 EVER NOTICE HOW THEY ALWAYS GO TO JEFF FOR A STRAIGHT ANSWER, HE HAS<br />
BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TAHT HE KNOWS MRE THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON.<br />
  HE HAS THE GUTS TO SPEAK UP WHEN THE OTHERS JUST CRY CRY CRY.<br />
 YOU GO JEFF .</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all those saying how Jeff Gordon is crying about it...
I think its because he is the only one willing to stand up and say something about it..
I mean, this may be a far reached comparison
but when you start tweaking and twisting cars and components for maximum
speed, you jeapordize the safety of the driver...
Just look at the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994 if you needed an example</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those saying how Jeff Gordon is crying about it&#8230;<br />
I think its because he is the only one willing to stand up and say something about it..<br />
I mean, this may be a far reached comparison<br />
but when you start tweaking and twisting cars and components for maximum<br />
speed, you jeapordize the safety of the driver&#8230;<br />
Just look at the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994 if you needed an example</p>
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		<title>By: damn</title>
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		<dc:creator>damn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont get it why people automatically accuse jeff of crying evrytime he's interviewed...ive seen bigger crybabys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont get it why people automatically accuse jeff of crying evrytime he&#8217;s interviewed&#8230;ive seen bigger crybabys</p>
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		<title>By: gogordon</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40130</link>
		<dc:creator>gogordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the typical "jeffs a crybaby bash krew" well u guys can cry me a river and ill give u a nice slice of american cheese with that fine wine. check your facts jeff does not cry over stuff. opinion is the key people dur dur dur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the typical &#8220;jeffs a crybaby bash krew&#8221; well u guys can cry me a river and ill give u a nice slice of american cheese with that fine wine. check your facts jeff does not cry over stuff. opinion is the key people dur dur dur</p>
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		<title>By: GordonOwnz</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordonOwnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="40107"]cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn't like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.[/quote]

.....spoken like a true jr. fan. Im actually still scratching my head as to what in the heck that even meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40107" title="View original comment"><cite>colonel</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn&#8217;t like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.</p>
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<p>&#8230;..spoken like a true jr. fan. Im actually still scratching my head as to what in the heck that even meant.</p>
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		<title>By: colonel</title>
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		<dc:creator>colonel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn't like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cry babe gorden call also move his rear end outa nascar if he doesn&#8217;t like the why things are done. it is only thing left that owners can do to the bodies of their hot rods. every thing else is mandated by templates.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon aka djlilj2050 on myspace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon aka djlilj2050 on myspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone stop crying..... nothing ever makes people satisfied in this sport.   I love what Nascar is doing and if they see nothing wrong go with it.... Mr crybaby Gordon you can do the same with your car and from what you said you did and couldnt drive it so oh well whats the big deal.    Carl has more talent with his car setup like that and hes not cheating so shut up and race.    God I love Nascar but I hate how some drivers just cry cry cry me a river when its not going there way.   Be men and swallow your losing streak pill and shut the f up already.    Im so happy to see Gorden and Johnson struggle.... and JR keep taking the Hendrick spotlight away from those 2 no personality cry babies.       Did Jr cry last week no he took it like a man as you should do Gordon!   What a joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone stop crying&#8230;.. nothing ever makes people satisfied in this sport.   I love what Nascar is doing and if they see nothing wrong go with it&#8230;. Mr crybaby Gordon you can do the same with your car and from what you said you did and couldnt drive it so oh well whats the big deal.    Carl has more talent with his car setup like that and hes not cheating so shut up and race.    God I love Nascar but I hate how some drivers just cry cry cry me a river when its not going there way.   Be men and swallow your losing streak pill and shut the f up already.    Im so happy to see Gorden and Johnson struggle&#8230;. and JR keep taking the Hendrick spotlight away from those 2 no personality cry babies.       Did Jr cry last week no he took it like a man as you should do Gordon!   What a joke</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="40088"]yeah but i think NASCAR needs to address this unfair advantage by the Roush Fenway camp. if they have found something that the NASCAR R&#38;D dept. have overlooked then it should not be allowed to happen.[/quote]

Howie how do you know that the NASCAR R&#38;D dept don't know about it?

It's something that just about all oval track cars take advantage of, you mess with the off-set or the twisting of the rear-end to (depending on the track/surface/class) either create more downforce (as in this case) or help the car rotate through the turns better (as in our case)

Something I think maybe the teams should look at to play with (unless it says they can't in the rule books) is the wing and if it has to be level across its surface (from left to right), or can they maybe have the left side of the wing higher by 2 degrees to create more downforce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/gordon-accuses-roush-fenway-of-cheating-on-edwards-car/#comment-40088" title="View original comment"><cite>Howie motorsports photography</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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yeah but i think NASCAR needs to address this unfair advantage by the Roush Fenway camp. if they have found something that the NASCAR R&amp;D dept. have overlooked then it should not be allowed to happen.</p>
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<p>Howie how do you know that the NASCAR R&amp;D dept don&#8217;t know about it?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s something that just about all oval track cars take advantage of, you mess with the off-set or the twisting of the rear-end to (depending on the track/surface/class) either create more downforce (as in this case) or help the car rotate through the turns better (as in our case)</p>
<p>Something I think maybe the teams should look at to play with (unless it says they can&#8217;t in the rule books) is the wing and if it has to be level across its surface (from left to right), or can they maybe have the left side of the wing higher by 2 degrees to create more downforce.</p>
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		<title>By: Roxanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 05:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have to adjust and tweak this new car somehow.  I thought they were pretty limited as it was.  So where exactly do you draw the line, and how much further can NASCAR possibly step in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have to adjust and tweak this new car somehow.  I thought they were pretty limited as it was.  So where exactly do you draw the line, and how much further can NASCAR possibly step in?</p>
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		<title>By: Howie motorsports photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie motorsports photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 05:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah but i think NASCAR needs to address this unfair advantage by the Roush Fenway camp. if they have found something that the NASCAR R&#38;D dept. have overlooked then it should not be allowed to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah but i think NASCAR needs to address this unfair advantage by the Roush Fenway camp. if they have found something that the NASCAR R&amp;D dept. have overlooked then it should not be allowed to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: rodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>waaaaaa! cry me a river.  as if gordon never won because hendrick had figured something out other teams had not.  he doesn't like losing very much does he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waaaaaa! cry me a river.  as if gordon never won because hendrick had figured something out other teams had not.  he doesn&#8217;t like losing very much does he?</p>
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		<title>By: Racedriven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Racedriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really haven't since that on Edward's car yet, however I have noticed during the qualifying show there are a couple more cars that do look like they are going sideways down the straightaway include the #12 Ryan Newman, I shouldn't be able to read a little of Altellgoing down the staightaway. 

I will check that out Saturday night when the they run off going in turn 1, the TV cameras have a shoot of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really haven&#8217;t since that on Edward&#8217;s car yet, however I have noticed during the qualifying show there are a couple more cars that do look like they are going sideways down the straightaway include the #12 Ryan Newman, I shouldn&#8217;t be able to read a little of Altellgoing down the staightaway. </p>
<p>I will check that out Saturday night when the they run off going in turn 1, the TV cameras have a shoot of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Modified is kinda like that, but we have it set up like that to help us turn better because the racing groove on the track is almost a perfect circle.

But unless NASCAR has a rule that says the car is supposed to have perfect tracking, then there is nothing illegal about the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Modified is kinda like that, but we have it set up like that to help us turn better because the racing groove on the track is almost a perfect circle.</p>
<p>But unless NASCAR has a rule that says the car is supposed to have perfect tracking, then there is nothing illegal about the car.</p>
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