Edward’s car fails Dover post-race inspection
Quote selected text Published September 23rd, 2007 in NASCAR News
Carl Edwards’ race-winning Roush Fenway Racing Ford failed postrace inspection Sunday at Dover International Speedway.
Edwards won the Dodge Dealers 400 earlier today, but the right rear of his car fell below the 1/2-inch tolerance for height, NASCAR said. The victory most likely will stand, but Edwards’ team is expected to be penalized later this week.
Team owner Jack Roush said that there were no changes made to the right side of the car and that he believes NASCAR will find the car is bent. He added it was his understanding that the right-rear was 3/8ths of an inch low, which doesn’t make sense to him.
“The springs we were using were used before,” Roush said. “Normally a spring, if it’s going to sag or do something like that, that would occur when it was a brand-new part.”
Edwards, who is third in the standings, three points behind leader Jeff Gordon, said a penalty is definitely possible.
“Because of the nature of the thing, it looks like [we could be penalized],” Edwards said Sunday night. “We’re hopeful for the worst case, [which] would be 25 points. The right rear being low, any crew chief or engineer in the garage will tell you, that’s the last thing you want. You want the right rear to be high. The only thing I can think of is at the end of the race, [teammate] Greg [Biffle] came up and gave me a couple of love taps to say, ‘Good job’ and ‘Good race’ and hopefully they find that bent the tail of the car down a little bit. Hopefully that’s what they find.”
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Interesting.
yeah i knew there was something bout the way that car was driving…WAY too fast for a COT…Roush cant win the chase without cheating..i guess they are trying to be HMS…if they find its b/c of biffle..which is unlikely…then OK..but if not its a COT violation should be 100pts in my opinion all the other COT infractions have been nothing LESS than 100…
I know Carl and he Does NOT cheat!!! Neither does anyone on team 99. They are NOT like the 48 team. This will get fixed soon! NASCAR just needs to get their head out of their butt and realize it’s an odd issue that can take place on the track, not something that happened in the garage. If NASCAR would also realize that hey they didn’t find this problem at pre-race inspections, then it probably wont show up in post- race. So in between that time the only way it could have happened was from being bumped.
And its not at all alittle strange that carl edwards could drive faster on 40 plus old tires againts biffle’s brand new tires? I say NASCAR needs to set an even higher precedent and take his win away or yea like someone stated before, it is a COT infraction and all the other penalties were 100 points so take 100 away from Carl.
He should be fined.. everyone else was having problems out there, but he wasn’t..and GUEST said it right; Biffle had 4 sticker tires and Edwards had old ones… WTF? That’s never worked in NASCAR. Deal with it: you got caught! Suffer the concequences.
Agreed w/ guest #1… 100pts. Chase or not, that has been the standing fine for all CoT violations this year. If they do anything less it’s going to be looked at as favoritism (which a lot of fans think there already is with Roush).
I still can’t figure out what the advantage to the back end being low would be. I would think you would want it up in the air to get that wing making as much downforce as possible to help you in the turns. I could see where getting the back down at Daytona would reduce drag and could be beneficial, but not on anything less than 1.5mi where drag doesn’t play as big of a factor.
Jeff , you must be high. Roush favortism by nascar? What , have you been watching nascar for 2 weeks or something? Nascar invented the 4 car limit to get at Roush. They pretty much invented the Chase because Kenseth won the champiobship with only a couple wins but running very consistent. and lets not forget the year Mark martin lost the championship by 28 points due to Nascar fining him 35 points for an intake manifold that had past 4 pre race inspections , but after winning 1 nascar inspector decided it didnt “look” right. WTF? Yeah , nascar isnt in Roush’s back pocket , not by a long shot.
Guest, if I’m high, you must be illiterate, because I very clearly said:
“favoritism (which a lot of fans think there already is with Roush).”
I never said I personally think that, but I’m sure if you ask non-Roush and non-Hendrick fans, they would gladly give you an earful about the favorable treatment that they perceive both of those teams get from NASCAR.
BTW, I’m well aware of the things NASCAR has done over the years to try and keep a handle on the Roush empire, so you don’t need to lecture me on that.
the 99 and 17 were the class of the field all day, untill the end the 17 was much better, and that car was fine after the race(even after blowing a motor you have to go through tech). the 99 simply had a smilair setup, a low right side is not an advantage for a car turning lift, it increases weight transfer to the outside, loads the right rear and lifts the inside tire, this lowers traction and grip. if roush were cheating i think he would do it in a way that would help his car, not hurt it.
this is very similair to what happened to gordon at daytona, they found the car to low on the right side. and they determined it was unintentional and not advantageous, and no penalties were given. that was pre-race though, and this is cot, so i dont think carl will get off that easy, but 25 points is fine for this. this is not jet fuel, an illegally mounted wing, or twisted fenders at a road course. this is a bent up car, 3/8″ low on the outside, after a demolition derby.
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So you “know” Carl, eh? Just because you like him doesn’t mean he doesn’t cheat. It was obvious Sunday that they had an advantage on everyone. And as the race went on, Carl got faster.
And for the 48 team comment. That was uncalled for. The 48 team has the best crew chief out there today and nobody likes it. Ah well. No one likes a winner, do they? I’m not saying Knaus hasn’t bent the rules to get an advantage, but what true crew chief wouldn’t?
Greg Biffle had the same problem in the spring Bristol race. There was no penalty.
As for the tires comments, think about how many of the laps you say the tires had on them were under caution. Maybe if you thought bofore you guys cried cheater, you would sound a little smarter. Grow up.
It doesn’t matter if it was cheating or not, the car failed “Post race inspection” Look at the COT’s that have passed Pre qualifying inspection and then failed post qualifying inspection, they lost there spot in the race. I like Carl but fair is fair, He should at the least get the 100 piont, $100,000 penility and a even worse penility would not be out of reason.
Maybe I should read what yall have been saying but I always get wound up if I read all of the previous posts–so I’m just going to post my opinion!
Carl is my favorite driver.. so this may be biased… haha
Carl EARNED those points yest. & Bob Osbourne CERTAINLY is no Chad Knauss … and I don’t know if I’m correctly remembering but didn’t NASCAR let Knauss slide once or twice on failing pre-race inspection?
Carl sat there during the race and told Rusty Wallace, Andy Petree and Jerry Punch that if he won he was giving his trophy away.
NASCAR should see Carl’s good-doings and applaud him…
They said there was no COT infractions–SO LET THE BOY RACE!
I don’t always agree with Jack Roush but with what he was quoted as saying in this article–I agree 100%. NASCAR is so screwy with their rules… they read into the gray area WAY too much.
oh wow–I meant to say nascar let knauss slide once or twice on post-race inspection… not pre-race, lol sorry!
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Biffle wasn’t penalized because at the time there was no minimum requirement… From March 30, By Jim Utter, The Charlotte Observer:
MARTINSVILLE, Va. — Greg Biffle didn’t receive a penalty last week because his was too low in the rear after the race because NASCAR’s rulebook regarding the “car of tomorrow” only has minimum rear heights applicable to Daytona and Talladega.
In essence, there is no rule requiring a minimum height in the rear of the car, but Nextel Cup Series director John Darby said that will likely soon be rectified.
“The only two tracks where there is actually a minimum height prescribed in the rulebook are Daytona and Talladega,” Darby said. “In regards to post race heights there are maximum heights spelled out for the downforce tracks and dimensions are given.”
Darby said NASCAR is working on a procedure that will soon encompass both maximum and minimum heights.
“We understand we have to have a minimum going down the road. Where we’re at right now is determining where the teams need it and where we need it.”
i was at the race. he did look a lil too fast
The only reason I would believe it wasn’t an intentional violation, is because
like someone else previously stated, his the teammate the 17 car was
just as fast if not faster than the 99. They both hit their setups. If it
was the 99 only who was that fast, then maybe their would be some
suspicion. But I believe they just nailed their setup and had a good day.
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LOL..opps, I ment to say I know how Carl is, Not that I personally know him. And you sound just like the other on Hendricks team, A big whiner. (Boo, hoo someone’s picking on the 48 team…go get a hanky!)
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(a lil fast) Ummm, let’s see that’s what those race cars are suppose to do…go fast.
same damn thing happened to none other than
tony stewart
a week ago & nascar let it go!
If Edwards gets fined, we’ll know
3/8 of an inch, give me a break! The wide world of markiting dosnt want Edwards to win the cup and bush in the same year!!!
Guess what? If the car had been 3/8 higher on the right rear , it would have handled even better and gone faster. So much for the cheating theory. AND , dont forget that nascar let Jeff Gordon slide on being too low , because they said “we dodnt believe they intended to have it too low”. So Carl spanked everyone but kenseth , so get over it , maybe everyones favorites will do better this week.
Justin4Roush wrote:
if it was higher it would have had more overall aero drag but less air on the wing, by being low the wing can have more control on the cars ballance which “could” be why the 99 was so fast in the corners. Unless it had damage from contact reather they ment to make it low or not, it failed post race tech and needs to be penelized
I still think the additional downforce in the corners at Dover would outweigh the adttional drag in the straightaways. There were so many times someone would pass a car in the corner put couldnt hold that position coming out of the corner due to not being able to stay more in the throttle at corner exit. More rear downforce would help that situation. I just doubt they would purposely want the car lower on the right rear.
I see a pattern here….all COT cars fail inspection.
He’s probably gonna be fined 25 points.. even though that won’t do much.
And they pounded on Andretti last week!!