Earnhardt, Jr, Johnson & Kenseth cars have inspection issues
Quote selected text Published March 1st, 2008 in NASCAR News
The Cup cars of #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr., #48-Jimmie Johnson and #17-Matt Kenseth were forced to go through the inspection line twice after NASCAR officials found minor violations on their cars.
NASCAR officials said the problems were not serious, but the crews of the #88 Chevy, the #48 Chevy and the #17 Ford were told to correct the problems and go back through the line. All three cars were on the track for the first practice session.
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What was the problem??????????????
Were there Flys on the hoods……………………..
It would be nice to know the reasons !!!!!!!!!!
Do print unless you can post the reason the full background…..
You mess with the COT thats 100 owner/driver points and 100 grand right…….
No fines have been announced.
They don’t announce that stuff till Tuesday usually, my statement was more of a rhetorical question. l0l
Again HMS lol, I wonder what the violations were? Teams need to learn you can’t mess with the COT, but before I pounce all over HMS and Kenseth I’m going to wait to hear what the violations were. And I swear to god if it’s a spoiler issue I’m going to fall over laughing.
I’m sure it was nothing major and there will be no fines cause they was allowed to fix the problem and go back through the inspection line had it been something major that would call for a fine the cars would have been inpounded
Barry wrote:
That just shows how consistent Na$car really is.. They said if you mess with the COT in any way, shape, or form.. than expect penalties..
So in my opinion, the 3 teams did something to the COT that nascar didn’t approve, they had to go fix it and get re-inspected.. to me that sounds like they messed with the car.
Just my 2 cents, it would be nice to see a consistent Na$car for once..
There isn’t gunnu be be a fine. They said during qualifying and practice that
they’d seen a lot of minor issues and all NASCAR was planning to do was make
sure they fixed them before Sunday.
they probably forgot to tighten a bolt on the dash to proper torque specs
I”d just like to know a couple of things:
1. Whats the difference between a major infraction and a minor one?
To me an infraction is still an infraction and if NASCAR is going to penalize for
infractions before the race they need to do it to all violators.
2. Why is it everybody thinks that there won’t be any fines and penalities?
NASCAR found Robby’s nose infraction before practice and fixed it before the race and
he still have big fines and penalities. To me the only way NASCAR can save face is to
slap them with the same penalties and fines. Oh yeah and suspensions for the crew
chief’s.
And if they don’t whats the point of the other 40 drivers on the track…just let
Johnson, Jeff Gordon and Dale Jr race…thats who NASCAR wants to win!!!
NASCAR officials said the problems were not serious, but the crews of the #88 Chevy, the #48 Chevy and the #17 Ford were told to correct the problems and go back through the line. All three cars were on the track for the first practice session.
I think some of you “Intellectuals” didn’t read the fine print that well and are jumping to conclusions far too quickly.. So i really think there’s not much point in the ridiculous comments “100Owner/DriverPoints, 100Grand etcetc. Jeff Gordon was not in this scenerio by the way.
Wasn’t Jr’s car last year only a minor infraction that was caught before the Dover race, and didn’t he get fined for that?
A car that does not meet the rules is a car that does not meet the rules no matter how big or small the difference from the rule is.
Everybody always complains that NASCAR is not consistent with their penalties, and when they start being consistent, all of the sudden everybody wants them to not be consistent when Dale Jr is involved.
Oh and I just heard on TV, that the car that John Andretti is driving had the same problem of not passing inspection and having to go back and do some bodywork to the car so it’d pass. His team should get the same penalty too.
Nobody said nothing about wanting Nascar to go easy on JR. If Nascar said the “infractions” wasn’t serious then they wasn’t. The Irrelavant comments i see as above are hilarious. I didn’t know that you all run Nascar and enforce the rules for them.
If we ran nascar, it would be a lot better. The voice of the fans, not the voice of the sellouts
Well people.. where’s the people who ramble about HMS cheats? Hmm? Nobody? Interesting..
THEY ONLY FINE YOU IF ITS MAJOR B4 THE RACE…how many times have people failed PRE RACE inspections….could be something minor like that one team had to put fiberglass on their bumper to match templates…do u think nascar is gonna fine then for that…NO….
its not cheating otherwise Nascar would have already sent the crew cheifs home…
once again FISHA is in here arguing about Dale Jr….never fails…you really need to get a life…nascar doesnt play favorites for JR…if u recall he was the FIRST driver to get fined/lose points for COT violations last season..if Nascar played favs with Jr..he wouldnt have gotten anything…only thing nascar plays favs with is when a certain driver (jimmie johnson to be specific) has no chance of winning in the closing laps but has the fastest car…some how a debris caution comes out and there is no debris…that stopped once all the fans started catching on to it…..
fisha cut this dale jr bashing out…its seriously getting old…we get the point you dont like him and want him punished to the full extent of the law…and no one cares
IF NASCAR THOUGHT IT WAS SERIOUS…THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SO…
wow everyone is jumping to conclusions so quickly without even knowing what the full story is and if whatever was wrong with the cars is something having to do with the body of the car or something else that has nothing to do with making the car better or whatever. Those of you who talk about HMS cheating, don’t forget that Jr is now a part of that team too and he is one thats included in this little scenario. I’m sure it wasn’t cheating, but if its something significant enough to be fined for, then they deserve to be fined same as everyone else, but if not, then thats great too. Apparently it wasn’t something too bad, but I guess we will see if they decide to penalize them and how much. Until then why are people flying off the handle and ASSuming this and that, we all know what assuming does most of the time. Why speculate when you can just be patient and wait the usual amount of time that it takes to announce penalties?
Darrell, show me where I am arguing about Dale Jr…? All I did was point out that last year when he got fined it was a minor infraction and still fit the template, the team bolted on the wrong wing supports. I do not see me arguing about Jr nor do I see my “bashing” him in here either.
Also the thing you mentioned about putting fiberglass on the nose. When the nose ships from the manufacture it is made to fit the NASCAR templates, so a team would not/should not have any reason to have to add more Fiberglass to the nose to make it fit the templates. Maybe in the Nationwide series where you can still twist around the cars, but not on the COT.
You know this deal is pissing Robby off BIG TIME. Again, NASCAR is consistent by being inconsistent.
hey Jeff since you know so much about NASCAR what qualify’s as no so serious “infraction”?
as long as the issue is fixed BEFORE qualifying, why does it even matter if it fails PRE race inspection? The entire point of a PRE RACE inspection is to make sure that the car is up to code DURRING the race!
Then why was Robby fines $100k, lost 100 points and a crew chief for 6 races…his violation was pre-Qualifying? I’m not trying to start trouble I’m honestly trying to find out…..
robby gordon problem was just from a part number misprint and look what he got. bet hendricks gets NOTHING!!!
I really thin Nascar is full of ____……why not just let he drivers run what they brung
Wait till Tuesday People. IF,IF the problems were a rules violation then NASCAR will tell us
what and how much it cost. Nascar is real good about telling us all about these kind of infractions.
It really tic’s me off to see certain people on here go after Dale JR. every time there is a mention
of his name or team as if he was public enemy #1… And you know who I’m speaking of.
Remember the incident at Sonoma last year? It was pre-practice inspection also. Let’s see what happens. I find it interesting none of the TV media have mentioned this but they did mention Andretti’s issue. Nothing where Chad Knaus is involved surprises me. The #17 got caught last year at Daytona. Reiser was suspended. Reiser is still involved at RFR with race issues. I am certain Robby Gordon will be very peeved if nothing happens. Lets see if they are consistent by being inconsistent or actually are consistent. I am surprised no one on Speed has mentioned this. Guess someone should right Wind Tunnel?
Bob where in any of these comments has anybody gone after Dale Jr…? I think you really need to read the comments before you start accusing people of doing things in them that have not been done.
Why havent they said what it was or have they,Im sorry but nascar has went to crap and it has nothing to do with me being a jr fan im talking about all the teams I mean whats the point in having a crew chief anymore their not allowed to do anything to the car nascar must want to be like that dead iroc series.
I don’t know but im just not into the nascar mood this year.. I think nascar has F’d up so much its not even that fun to watch anymore.
Im tired of seeing 43 bricks on tires with some different stickers going around the race track, and i am tired of seeing nascar being so inconsistent with every little thing.
Sorry to rant on here but its just frustrating..
These “infractions” SIMPLY could have been something NOT tightend and whatnots, nothing that meant “cheating”. But we won’t know until some source come’s out and states what it is. But, if it were anything against the rulebook, I highly doubt anything will be noted. But, if the story is going to be put out there, can we at least know ALL the facts before we hear this little amount that makes SOME people just go crazy with their “it must be true” and conspiracy theories? Geesh.
i just heard it was probably a height issue… i guess if its caught in pre-practice inspection then they can go back and fix it and run through again…
we’ll see on tuesday
And, Fisha.. We all KNOW that YOU were implicating Jr in those responses of yours. Luckily for you, my other post was too “innapropriate” to have posted.
You really are a piece of work. Why don’t you just shut up already!
I was not implying anything because Jr is involved, I was simply implying that based on the majority past infractions with the COT, that is what the penalty would probaly be. And then my second post was talking about when the penalties are usually announced, and then my 3rd response was pointing out that for what I would consider a minor infraction, last year Jr’s team got penalized 100/100/100/6 and that most likely this would probably be the same penalty as it is also a minor infraction.
And then my 4th, 5th, & 6th responses are asking the blind biased Jr fans where I showed any biased towards what I think the fine should be because Jr is involved.
So please tell me where I have implied that?
Quit lying Fisha. We know that your post(s) always have implications leading towards your hatred of Jr.
And as for the “minor” infraction, Nascar did not see that as minor, though Most of us would agree the friggen pins WERE a minor thing and NOT clearly defined in the rules. And as to Nascar’s own acknowledgment, “we are going to make an example out of this”. And nailed him more then any other would be for the same type of “minor” infraction. We KNOW to that not ALL infractions are values the same penalties. So you need to get over your need to do the 100/100/100, 6 races, on every instance of an issue with any penalty/driver. It gets old.
As for us “blind, biased jr fans”… Take a good look at yourself, you hypocrite. Your the only one that seems to be blind and biased. Everyone else here finds something good and something bad on other drivers as well as their own favorite. Your so stupid. Just be quite for awhile, really, just shut up about your discontent for Jr, and maybe you might gain some respect here.
So you are saying that NASCAR should not be consistent with their penalties…..?
And as far as the whole “Everyone else here finds something good and something bad on other drivers as well as their own favorite.”
Who has said I don’t? Just because I do not happen to voice all my opinions on this site does not mean the limited ones I do are my only ones.
Also you keep on saying my “hatred for/of Jr” Where have I ever said I hate him? I may dislike him, but I don’t hate him, or really anybody else. There is a difference… a big difference between Hate and dislike… maybe you should go look it up
Fisha695 wrote:
Fisha the penalties arent always COT issues and say if it was a suspenion issue or something not involving the body the penalty would be 25 points and $25,000 but we will have to wait and see. BTW there is no part from any factory that comes perfect they all have to be worked on to get them to be perfect, i used to work in a bodyshop myself.
I know that no part is perfect from the factory but Five-Stars stuff is usually pretty good (they make the Dodge noses, and they make a lot of other NASCAR related stuff so I’m guessing they probably make the other noses too)
And since this whole thing with that they did has been kinda hush-hush I did some searching to see if I could find anything that may not have been posted on here or Jayski, and I found an article on Fox-Sports that mentions that last week Edwards team had done something to his wheel wells that NASCAR did not like, and they told teams to not do that in the future (which that in itself was a pretty hush-hush thing), so it MAY, be something similar to that, where this time it was just a warning and the next time its a fine, or it could be something like that, but they have not figured out how exactly how they want to penalize the teams yet.
And remember while NASCAR has had to deal with these kind of issues in the past and they have a previous precedent with what the penalties are on the old car, They have kinda like Started over with how severe the penalties are with the COT.
Thank you George. That’s my point. Not every penalty is the same!
Ad Fha, yr s stpd. As I have stated time and time before, Nascar is never consistant with their penalties, but not all penalties are nor should they be, allocated the same for different types of infractions.
Ok
1. Why in my email is your second sentence spelled correctly, but yet its not on the here… thats weird but ok whatever.
2. NASCAR has been pretty consistent with COT penalties compared to the old car. But maybe that is because the COT is more Black and White whereas the Spoiler car is more Grey as far as what is legal and what isn’t goes.
not to worry. nasty car will not do anything to hms. but now john and matt may be in trouble. its not a wonder they didn’t get down on gordy. minor infractions, major infraction, not passing are penalties only for hnon-hms cars. colonel33
I hope they get the same penalties as Robby Gordon did. That’s the only fair!!