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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36390</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice exchange folks and George you are right about every one bringing a little something to the table. If every one could say something about the track near them that is not published on that tracks race week it would be a little more interesting site. I for one live near the Daytona Track and my wife works for nascar (doesn't stop me from blasting them every chance I get though) so at times I do get a few inside tidbits to pass on.

Kenneth= The Editor
Good move on your part to let every one air their views on how and what is said to whom on this site without jumping in and admonishing them. In all families the tension just gets to charged and over the top till one day every one just says what is on there mind no matter who it hurts.. 
That is a good thing a release valve of sorts. I believe that is what just happened here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice exchange folks and George you are right about every one bringing a little something to the table. If every one could say something about the track near them that is not published on that tracks race week it would be a little more interesting site. I for one live near the Daytona Track and my wife works for nascar (doesn&#8217;t stop me from blasting them every chance I get though) so at times I do get a few inside tidbits to pass on.</p>
<p>Kenneth= The Editor<br />
Good move on your part to let every one air their views on how and what is said to whom on this site without jumping in and admonishing them. In all families the tension just gets to charged and over the top till one day every one just says what is on there mind no matter who it hurts..<br />
That is a good thing a release valve of sorts. I believe that is what just happened here.</p>
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		<title>By: gigolo george</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36382</link>
		<dc:creator>gigolo george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider Axel, Bob, HRTodd, Fisha, Sam, G.Thompson, jr88fan, Darrell, Justin, Dustin and every other person that comes here to play, my equals. I know I'm not better than anyone here but I think I'm just as good as anyone here. Equal. Just as important as anyone else. Equal. We've had a good ride with Kenneth. I hope we can keep it going without losing anyone along the way. We should enlighten each other, not shoot each other. Hot Rod Todd gave us the scoop on what happened in California. Stuff I didn't see anywhere else. Even weather conditions. Fisha informed me that Fran Prestay, aka Five Star Bodies, makes the infamous Robby Gordon nose piece. I've dealt with Fran's company on and off for over 20 years but was unaware of this. Another one of us lives minutes from Lowe's Motor Speedway and tells us tidbits on everything from the track to the community. I actually learn things here. This is a cool place. Let's keep it rolling and playing by the rules is a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider Axel, Bob, HRTodd, Fisha, Sam, G.Thompson, jr88fan, Darrell, Justin, Dustin and every other person that comes here to play, my equals. I know I&#8217;m not better than anyone here but I think I&#8217;m just as good as anyone here. Equal. Just as important as anyone else. Equal. We&#8217;ve had a good ride with Kenneth. I hope we can keep it going without losing anyone along the way. We should enlighten each other, not shoot each other. Hot Rod Todd gave us the scoop on what happened in California. Stuff I didn&#8217;t see anywhere else. Even weather conditions. Fisha informed me that Fran Prestay, aka Five Star Bodies, makes the infamous Robby Gordon nose piece. I&#8217;ve dealt with Fran&#8217;s company on and off for over 20 years but was unaware of this. Another one of us lives minutes from Lowe&#8217;s Motor Speedway and tells us tidbits on everything from the track to the community. I actually learn things here. This is a cool place. Let&#8217;s keep it rolling and playing by the rules is a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: jr88fan</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36333</link>
		<dc:creator>jr88fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Gigolo George! I appreciate that very much!!

And Fisha, Sam was doing NOTHING of the sort! Again, your "poor me" sydrome and twist of the words and the facts at work. And, YOU were the one changing the subject and inciting something that was not there. Sam MERELY stated HIS oipinon on the matter. Whatever happened in another post between you two had nothing to do with that post. But, AGAIN. YOUR SO innocent, even thought YOU insulted, ATTACKED and made comments in/to that thread and Sam that had nothing to do with the topic. You just couldn't stay out of his response to someone else, even though you COULD have, and then you TRY and hide behind "the rules", even though YOU are the one that broke them! I have nothing else to say to you. I made my point and the truth was seen about what you do to PROVOKE people into things ,just as you are now so *I* can gtet nailed, and then act all innocent. boohoo.

TT... I apologize. I was merely making my point to Kenneth about this. Everyone else is accused of breaking rules, except fisha, and its old. I KNOW I am not the only one that see's what is going on. I WISH we could stay on topic and/or  have a great dialogue to some things, without that sad attempts of control from another. Its too bad I had to use it here in the thread as well, to state it. But, why should a selct few of us get the wrath, while some other acts pristine and get away with THEIR behavior? MANY of us TRY to talk about racing.. but as stated above.. we are always deemed stupid or our post are overshadowed of any great response, by some jealous individual who has something to prove.

&lt;b&gt; I am done... Back to racing topics only... well, until Kenneth bans me from my postings here. lol 

..........

&lt;b&gt;And fisha... Just dont even respond or make ANY statements to my post from now on. Thank you, come again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Gigolo George! I appreciate that very much!!</p>
<p>And Fisha, Sam was doing NOTHING of the sort! Again, your &#8220;poor me&#8221; sydrome and twist of the words and the facts at work. And, YOU were the one changing the subject and inciting something that was not there. Sam MERELY stated HIS oipinon on the matter. Whatever happened in another post between you two had nothing to do with that post. But, AGAIN. YOUR SO innocent, even thought YOU insulted, ATTACKED and made comments in/to that thread and Sam that had nothing to do with the topic. You just couldn&#8217;t stay out of his response to someone else, even though you COULD have, and then you TRY and hide behind &#8220;the rules&#8221;, even though YOU are the one that broke them! I have nothing else to say to you. I made my point and the truth was seen about what you do to PROVOKE people into things ,just as you are now so *I* can gtet nailed, and then act all innocent. boohoo.</p>
<p>TT&#8230; I apologize. I was merely making my point to Kenneth about this. Everyone else is accused of breaking rules, except fisha, and its old. I KNOW I am not the only one that see&#8217;s what is going on. I WISH we could stay on topic and/or  have a great dialogue to some things, without that sad attempts of control from another. Its too bad I had to use it here in the thread as well, to state it. But, why should a selct few of us get the wrath, while some other acts pristine and get away with THEIR behavior? MANY of us TRY to talk about racing.. but as stated above.. we are always deemed stupid or our post are overshadowed of any great response, by some jealous individual who has something to prove.</p>
<p><b> I am done&#8230; Back to racing topics only&#8230; well, until Kenneth bans me from my postings here. lol </b></p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><b>And fisha&#8230; Just dont even respond or make ANY statements to my post from now on. Thank you, come again</b></p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36331</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TT I want to talk about racing, but those two have to constantly attack everything I say because OMG I happen to not like The Holy Child Jr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TT I want to talk about racing, but those two have to constantly attack everything I say because OMG I happen to not like The Holy Child Jr.</p>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36330</link>
		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously, I'm tired of hearing you guys go at each other...it's ridiculous!  im sure im not alone on this.  let's talk about racing cant we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously, I&#8217;m tired of hearing you guys go at each other&#8230;it&#8217;s ridiculous!  im sure im not alone on this.  let&#8217;s talk about racing cant we?</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36327</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jr88fan I did not attack Sam, or break the rules at all. I simply stated that the nature of the way that comment was written, combined with the nature of the other comments from Sam involving Me and JR related topics seamed like Sam was trying to coax me into an argument in hopes of me breaking the rules in the course of that argument.

kthnxbye ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jr88fan I did not attack Sam, or break the rules at all. I simply stated that the nature of the way that comment was written, combined with the nature of the other comments from Sam involving Me and JR related topics seamed like Sam was trying to coax me into an argument in hopes of me breaking the rules in the course of that argument.</p>
<p>kthnxbye <img src='http://autoracingsport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jr88fan</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36326</link>
		<dc:creator>jr88fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT to "change" the subject at hand... BUT

Fisha695 wrote:
And from the nature of your comments and your previous comments in other articles it sounds like from the start of this one you are trying to be a Smart-”donkey” and start an argument for no reason other then to argue, thinking you will get me to break the rules and get banned. But its not going to happen.

Oh… KENNETH… I believe THIS would be BREAKING the rules!!!
Just because SAM said: “I do not see DEI mentioned in this article!”

but.. SAM is in the wrong making inappropriate comments, and attacking others??? HMMM.. Ok

&lt;b&gt; I REST MY CASE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT to &#8220;change&#8221; the subject at hand&#8230; BUT</p>
<p>Fisha695 wrote:<br />
And from the nature of your comments and your previous comments in other articles it sounds like from the start of this one you are trying to be a Smart-”donkey” and start an argument for no reason other then to argue, thinking you will get me to break the rules and get banned. But its not going to happen.</p>
<p>Oh… KENNETH… I believe THIS would be BREAKING the rules!!!<br />
Just because SAM said: “I do not see DEI mentioned in this article!”</p>
<p>but.. SAM is in the wrong making inappropriate comments, and attacking others??? HMMM.. Ok</p>
<p><b> I REST MY CASE!!!</b></p>
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		<title>By: gigolo george</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36325</link>
		<dc:creator>gigolo george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a beatdown and warning from Kenneth last year for some of my nasty comments on Kurt Busch. Just about everything I said about Kurt was accurate, just not in the right context. Besides us hardcore fans and racers, we do get kids and moms logging on. I've been involved in some personal crap too, but I had to get past it. I don't want to see anyone kicked off. I enjoy what we have. It doesn't matter who does or doesn't like me, it's about the passion we have for the sport. jr88fan and Fisha are pieces of the puzzle. jr88fan and Fisha get equal respect from me. All of you do. Otherwise this deal doesn't work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a beatdown and warning from Kenneth last year for some of my nasty comments on Kurt Busch. Just about everything I said about Kurt was accurate, just not in the right context. Besides us hardcore fans and racers, we do get kids and moms logging on. I&#8217;ve been involved in some personal crap too, but I had to get past it. I don&#8217;t want to see anyone kicked off. I enjoy what we have. It doesn&#8217;t matter who does or doesn&#8217;t like me, it&#8217;s about the passion we have for the sport. jr88fan and Fisha are pieces of the puzzle. jr88fan and Fisha get equal respect from me. All of you do. Otherwise this deal doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: jr88fan</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36320</link>
		<dc:creator>jr88fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenneth
.... "to those of you who apparently think the rules do not apply to you here…
If you’re going to continue to break our policies, then I will continue to delete your posts. Please don’t force me to ban you from this site.This includes swear words with one letter taken out, telling people to shut up, and getting off topic repeatedly to have sparring matches with someone else on here. I’m tired of warning the few of you who break the rules. So I’ll say it nicely one more time…knock it off!"

Aww, did poor SOnSO come crying to you? This is ridiculous, that you chastize some of us, yet 'some' other's get away with saying what ever they want to, to people. Its only good for a very select few to say anything AND everything, EVERYTIME, yet, if WE try to post in turn, WE are the one's in the wrong? What a joke. We thought YOU were in charge of this site not fisha. 

And, if you see and READ some post carefully, you will see that the "God" of the site, fisha not to mention crybaby", is JUST as guilty of breaking the rules. He only uses his words a little different when "ATTACKING other's post's. He is also guilty of making INNAPROPRIATE comments to other's simply based on THEIR VIEW's and who THEY choose as a "favorite" driver, not to mention... SPAMMING on every thread becaue HE has to be the "authority on the matter, or the last word. Oh and let's not forget that he intenionately antagonizes people, just so you he can turn and hide behind the "rules" and get you to do this kind of statement.

There are some that I will say are way out of line with their derogatory remarks not matter what, which mostly are "guest" non registered persons. But when YOU decide to the lay down the law on EVERYONE, for EVERY RULE, then maybe people won't get so frustrated.

Make sure you do it to EVERYONE, not just the whoa'es me person(s). What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Its funny that only ONE person here is consistently having the issue of being told to be quiet, or to stop, etc, because THEY are starting stuff and seem to think its all about them and no one else is right nor has a say. Plus, that person can say whatever they want bad towards some.... Yet, they are the one that is protected?!? So, if this is how the site is going to be ran that only one persons opinon matters, that is just wrong. And that person is also and MORE SO, WAY guilty of straying off subjects... because again, he just HAS to correct people, say something, or just try to be "special" 

If you want to kick me off for stating MY opinion on this, fine. We will see then that this site IS truly biased and favored people run it. So you will lose everyone else if THEY don't feel that they have the same rights and protections. It IS extremely ridiculous that one or two will and do hide behind the "rules", yet are just as guilty as violating them, exception of swearing.

IF all our opinions matter and have value to the post/threads, etc that are informative, or that we or others can learn from, then maybe ALL of us should be able to say those without always having to be insulted or corrected because we do. So, if you feel like banning me, fine, there are other sites, that are FAIR TO ALL, informative, and professional.

People are not going to keep coming here if its all about one person only and if anyone else speaks up, they get "warned about being banned" because of it.
Thanks.


&lt;b&gt; TO ALL THE POSTER'S HERE:
If I get banned for this "opinion" of mine. Nice talking with each of you with your MATURE, informative and RESPECTFUL of me and other's opinion, Whether we saw eye to eye, or we don't have the same favorite drivers or not. Good knowing ya, and keep on racing on. Wish you better blogging/posting, even if you have to go to another site. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenneth<br />
&#8230;. &#8220;to those of you who apparently think the rules do not apply to you here…<br />
If you’re going to continue to break our policies, then I will continue to delete your posts. Please don’t force me to ban you from this site.This includes swear words with one letter taken out, telling people to shut up, and getting off topic repeatedly to have sparring matches with someone else on here. I’m tired of warning the few of you who break the rules. So I’ll say it nicely one more time…knock it off!&#8221;</p>
<p>Aww, did poor SOnSO come crying to you? This is ridiculous, that you chastize some of us, yet &#8217;some&#8217; other&#8217;s get away with saying what ever they want to, to people. Its only good for a very select few to say anything AND everything, EVERYTIME, yet, if WE try to post in turn, WE are the one&#8217;s in the wrong? What a joke. We thought YOU were in charge of this site not fisha. </p>
<p>And, if you see and READ some post carefully, you will see that the &#8220;God&#8221; of the site, fisha not to mention crybaby&#8221;, is JUST as guilty of breaking the rules. He only uses his words a little different when &#8220;ATTACKING other&#8217;s post&#8217;s. He is also guilty of making INNAPROPRIATE comments to other&#8217;s simply based on THEIR VIEW&#8217;s and who THEY choose as a &#8220;favorite&#8221; driver, not to mention&#8230; SPAMMING on every thread becaue HE has to be the &#8220;authority on the matter, or the last word. Oh and let&#8217;s not forget that he intenionately antagonizes people, just so you he can turn and hide behind the &#8220;rules&#8221; and get you to do this kind of statement.</p>
<p>There are some that I will say are way out of line with their derogatory remarks not matter what, which mostly are &#8220;guest&#8221; non registered persons. But when YOU decide to the lay down the law on EVERYONE, for EVERY RULE, then maybe people won&#8217;t get so frustrated.</p>
<p>Make sure you do it to EVERYONE, not just the whoa&#8217;es me person(s). What&#8217;s good for the goose is good for the gander. Its funny that only ONE person here is consistently having the issue of being told to be quiet, or to stop, etc, because THEY are starting stuff and seem to think its all about them and no one else is right nor has a say. Plus, that person can say whatever they want bad towards some&#8230;. Yet, they are the one that is protected?!? So, if this is how the site is going to be ran that only one persons opinon matters, that is just wrong. And that person is also and MORE SO, WAY guilty of straying off subjects&#8230; because again, he just HAS to correct people, say something, or just try to be &#8220;special&#8221; </p>
<p>If you want to kick me off for stating MY opinion on this, fine. We will see then that this site IS truly biased and favored people run it. So you will lose everyone else if THEY don&#8217;t feel that they have the same rights and protections. It IS extremely ridiculous that one or two will and do hide behind the &#8220;rules&#8221;, yet are just as guilty as violating them, exception of swearing.</p>
<p>IF all our opinions matter and have value to the post/threads, etc that are informative, or that we or others can learn from, then maybe ALL of us should be able to say those without always having to be insulted or corrected because we do. So, if you feel like banning me, fine, there are other sites, that are FAIR TO ALL, informative, and professional.</p>
<p>People are not going to keep coming here if its all about one person only and if anyone else speaks up, they get &#8220;warned about being banned&#8221; because of it.<br />
Thanks.</p>
<p><b> TO ALL THE POSTER&#8217;S HERE:<br />
If I get banned for this &#8220;opinion&#8221; of mine. Nice talking with each of you with your MATURE, informative and RESPECTFUL of me and other&#8217;s opinion, Whether we saw eye to eye, or we don&#8217;t have the same favorite drivers or not. Good knowing ya, and keep on racing on. Wish you better blogging/posting, even if you have to go to another site. Take care.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth - ARS Editor</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36319</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth - ARS Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="36307"]Well i guess Nascar is taking the fun out of the sport just like "Kenneth" is taking the fun out of the blogs.[/quote]

Here's a good example of someone that doesn't have to call me a name to get his point across that he didn't like what I said.  I have no problem having you disagree with me....and I don't care if you say I'm full of it.  There's just a way to do it so it's not blatantly offensive to others...like this.

[quote comment="36318"]We do need to back off a little with the personal attacks. We will have to comply with the rules laid out by Kenneth. I know a lot of us use the letter A and 2 dollar signs when referring to another name for a donkey. Is that something we can't do anymore Kenneth? Is that one of the violations? I just want to be sure. I don't need help getting stupid.[/quote]

gg, I think it comes down to having a little discretion.  An 'A' followed by 2 symbols, for example, is fine.  That's one of those words that I guess you could call borderline. 

Quite honestly, I have no problem with any profanity, but alot of people do, and we have younger people who read this blog, and I want to respect their readership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36307" title="View original comment"><cite>Bill</cite> wrote:</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36307"><p>
Well i guess Nascar is taking the fun out of the sport just like &#8220;Kenneth&#8221; is taking the fun out of the blogs.</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a good example of someone that doesn&#8217;t have to call me a name to get his point across that he didn&#8217;t like what I said.  I have no problem having you disagree with me&#8230;.and I don&#8217;t care if you say I&#8217;m full of it.  There&#8217;s just a way to do it so it&#8217;s not blatantly offensive to others&#8230;like this.</p>
<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36318" title="View original comment"><cite>gigolo george</cite> wrote:</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36318"><p>
We do need to back off a little with the personal attacks. We will have to comply with the rules laid out by Kenneth. I know a lot of us use the letter A and 2 dollar signs when referring to another name for a donkey. Is that something we can&#8217;t do anymore Kenneth? Is that one of the violations? I just want to be sure. I don&#8217;t need help getting stupid.</p>
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<p>gg, I think it comes down to having a little discretion.  An &#8216;A&#8217; followed by 2 symbols, for example, is fine.  That&#8217;s one of those words that I guess you could call borderline. </p>
<p>Quite honestly, I have no problem with any profanity, but alot of people do, and we have younger people who read this blog, and I want to respect their readership.</p>
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		<title>By: gigolo george</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36318</link>
		<dc:creator>gigolo george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do need to back off a little with the personal attacks. We will have to comply with the rules laid out by Kenneth. I know a lot of us use the letter A and 2 dollar signs when referring to another name for a donkey. Is that something we can't do anymore Kenneth? Is that one of the violations? I just want to be sure. I don't need help getting stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do need to back off a little with the personal attacks. We will have to comply with the rules laid out by Kenneth. I know a lot of us use the letter A and 2 dollar signs when referring to another name for a donkey. Is that something we can&#8217;t do anymore Kenneth? Is that one of the violations? I just want to be sure. I don&#8217;t need help getting stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36307</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i guess Nascar is taking the fun out of the sport just like "Kenneth" is taking the fun out of the blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i guess Nascar is taking the fun out of the sport just like &#8220;Kenneth&#8221; is taking the fun out of the blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth - ARS Editor</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36297</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth - ARS Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those of you who apparently think the rules do not apply to you here...

If you're going to continue to break our policies, then I will continue to delete your posts.

Please don't force me to ban you from this site.

This includes swear words with one letter taken out, telling people to shut up, and getting off topic repeatedly to have sparring matches with someone else on here.

I'm tired of warning the few of you who break the rules.

So I'll say it nicely one more time...knock it off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those of you who apparently think the rules do not apply to you here&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to continue to break our policies, then I will continue to delete your posts.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t force me to ban you from this site.</p>
<p>This includes swear words with one letter taken out, telling people to shut up, and getting off topic repeatedly to have sparring matches with someone else on here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of warning the few of you who break the rules.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll say it nicely one more time&#8230;knock it off!</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36296</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teams get the majority of the cash, and trophy's just sit there and collect dust.... Plus with the schedule they have today the drivers are never home to look at the trophy's.... l0l</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teams get the majority of the cash, and trophy&#8217;s just sit there and collect dust&#8230;. Plus with the schedule they have today the drivers are never home to look at the trophy&#8217;s&#8230;. l0l</p>
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		<title>By: hot rod todd</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36295</link>
		<dc:creator>hot rod todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say that wins DO mean sumthing like the ten points the trouphy the cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say that wins DO mean sumthing like the ten points the trouphy the cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old saying is "It's only cheating if you get cought" Soo by that theory I would say there is a lot of cheating going on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old saying is &#8220;It&#8217;s only cheating if you get cought&#8221; Soo by that theory I would say there is a lot of cheating going on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36272</link>
		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wins do mean nothing in the big scheme of things its points that mean everything. You can win the most races and still not win the championship and you can win one race, but be consistent and Win the championship in dominating fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wins do mean nothing in the big scheme of things its points that mean everything. You can win the most races and still not win the championship and you can win one race, but be consistent and Win the championship in dominating fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: darrell</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36269</link>
		<dc:creator>darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="36221"]I'm fine with NASCAR not taking away the win because Wins really mean nothing in NASCAR. In NASCAR Points mean everything. Take a way all points but let them keep the win IMO. As far as the tire thing... I gotta think about that and stuff like that...[/quote]

FIsha shut up....seriously....wins mean nothing....tell that to the drivers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36221" title="View original comment"><cite>Fisha695</cite> wrote:</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36221"><p>
I&#8217;m fine with NASCAR not taking away the win because Wins really mean nothing in NASCAR. In NASCAR Points mean everything. Take a way all points but let them keep the win IMO. As far as the tire thing&#8230; I gotta think about that and stuff like that&#8230;</p>
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<p>FIsha shut up&#8230;.seriously&#8230;.wins mean nothing&#8230;.tell that to the drivers</p>
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		<title>By: jr88fan</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36267</link>
		<dc:creator>jr88fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course CHEATERS prosoper... HENDRICK MOTORSPORTS!!! The only team I know that can and has been docked and STILL get a championship. They blatently cheated and still got it. Bullsh!t!!!

As for the old school guys cheating... of course it happened and samething as HMS. 

Nascar ONLY does something when its not suiting their needs. As for them punishing the one's that they want to win, they have to make it appear they are being fair to all and well they'll just make up for it later with perfectly thrown "debris" cautions etc, that benefit those teams. No one is going to tell me different on that, its really looking like its wwf style.

And as for any penalty out of the one's they listed above... Jr's car and penalty is the only one is which the cars performance was NOT enhanced, friggen pins not approved of by nascar... PINS on the spoiler, that did NOTHING else but hold things together!! Yet he suffered the same amount as the one's who DID blatenly cheat and cause their ars to have preformance enhancements?? wtf! THAT is not right. 

The cheater who wins the race and its found, hence, Edwards, should have that WIN REMOVED and the guy in 2nd take the win. Then, that guy should be placed in last place standings AND face the monetary fines, suspensions, and a slightly smaller points decrease(since they are losing a little for being placed last).

Why should a guy caught cheating like that be ab le to keep the win.... Bullcr@p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course CHEATERS prosoper&#8230; HENDRICK MOTORSPORTS!!! The only team I know that can and has been docked and STILL get a championship. They blatently cheated and still got it. Bullsh!t!!!</p>
<p>As for the old school guys cheating&#8230; of course it happened and samething as HMS. </p>
<p>Nascar ONLY does something when its not suiting their needs. As for them punishing the one&#8217;s that they want to win, they have to make it appear they are being fair to all and well they&#8217;ll just make up for it later with perfectly thrown &#8220;debris&#8221; cautions etc, that benefit those teams. No one is going to tell me different on that, its really looking like its wwf style.</p>
<p>And as for any penalty out of the one&#8217;s they listed above&#8230; Jr&#8217;s car and penalty is the only one is which the cars performance was NOT enhanced, friggen pins not approved of by nascar&#8230; PINS on the spoiler, that did NOTHING else but hold things together!! Yet he suffered the same amount as the one&#8217;s who DID blatenly cheat and cause their ars to have preformance enhancements?? wtf! THAT is not right. </p>
<p>The cheater who wins the race and its found, hence, Edwards, should have that WIN REMOVED and the guy in 2nd take the win. Then, that guy should be placed in last place standings AND face the monetary fines, suspensions, and a slightly smaller points decrease(since they are losing a little for being placed last).</p>
<p>Why should a guy caught cheating like that be ab le to keep the win&#8230;. Bullcr@p</p>
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		<title>By: gigolo george</title>
		<link>http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/do-cheaters-prosper-in-nascar/#comment-36261</link>
		<dc:creator>gigolo george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick was bribing Honda officials and getting cars when other dealers couldn't. After a long, exhaustive investigation, Rick suddenly became ill. He was too sick to go to jail should there be a conviction and that marrow foundation was created. A few years later, Rick made a miraculous recovery. It was right after Rick and the others worked out deals with the  prosecutors. Even Ripley's (Believe It Or Not) had a hard time believing that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick was bribing Honda officials and getting cars when other dealers couldn&#8217;t. After a long, exhaustive investigation, Rick suddenly became ill. He was too sick to go to jail should there be a conviction and that marrow foundation was created. A few years later, Rick made a miraculous recovery. It was right after Rick and the others worked out deals with the  prosecutors. Even Ripley&#8217;s (Believe It Or Not) had a hard time believing that one.</p>
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