Comments on: Car of Tomorrow driving up costs, not reducing them http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/ The place for NASCAR news and rumors where the discussion rages... Sat, 22 Nov 2008 22:42:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kyle264 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28295 Kyle264 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:21:42 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28295 The bump and run action of Bristol is what put the butts in the seats at that track for the past decade. Each track has it's own personality. They lost a big personality when they reconcreted Bristol. People watch Bristol for the close and rough racing. It takes no talent to do bump and run racing??? I thimk it would take a considerable amount of talent to hang onto a car going over 120 MPH, have someone run into you and hang onto it. Remember, this is stock racin' (somewhat) we can bump and rub into each other, unlike open wheel. The bump and run action of Bristol is what put the butts in the seats at that track for the past decade.
Each track has it’s own personality. They lost a big personality when they reconcreted Bristol. People watch Bristol for the close and rough racing. It takes no talent to do bump and run racing??? I thimk it would take a considerable amount of talent to hang onto a car going over 120 MPH, have someone run into you and hang onto it. Remember, this is stock racin’ (somewhat) we can bump and rub into each other, unlike open wheel.

]]> By: Luke Warmwater http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28235 Luke Warmwater Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:07:42 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28235 [quote comment="28192"]who ever said that bristol with the cot cars was good? i think bristol sucks now, did any one see the bump and run? dident think so? they should of left the track alone.[/quote] The bump and run makes for horrible racing. All that shows is that you lack the talent to pass them clean so you just knock them out of the way. The repaving at Bristol brought racing back to that track and ended the era of bumper cars. Now if they could only get rid of restrictor plates. The reason the ratings are down isn't the COT and it isn't the networks. It's the fans. NASCAR blew up big in the late 90s and early 00s but then they excitement started to wear off for some of the fair weather fans and they are no longer interested. The ratings will drop off and attendance will not be as good, but then they'll level off and probably stay that way. NASCAR's growth spurt is over. hot rod todd wrote:

who ever said that bristol with the cot cars was good? i think bristol sucks now, did any one see the bump and run? dident think so? they should of left the track alone.

The bump and run makes for horrible racing. All that shows is that you lack the talent to pass them clean so you just knock them out of the way. The repaving at Bristol brought racing back to that track and ended the era of bumper cars. Now if they could only get rid of restrictor plates.

The reason the ratings are down isn’t the COT and it isn’t the networks. It’s the fans. NASCAR blew up big in the late 90s and early 00s but then they excitement started to wear off for some of the fair weather fans and they are no longer interested. The ratings will drop off and attendance will not be as good, but then they’ll level off and probably stay that way. NASCAR’s growth spurt is over.

]]> By: Fisha695 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28232 Fisha695 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:03:37 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28232 [quote comment="28192"]who ever said that bristol with the cot cars was good? i think bristol sucks now, did any one see the bump and run? dident think so? they should of left the track alone.[/quote] The second race at Bristol with the new surface reminded me of back when Bristol was paved, and how the raceing was at Bristol back in the 70s and 80s. hot rod todd wrote:

who ever said that bristol with the cot cars was good? i think bristol sucks now, did any one see the bump and run? dident think so? they should of left the track alone.

The second race at Bristol with the new surface reminded me of back when Bristol was paved, and how the raceing was at Bristol back in the 70s and 80s.

]]> By: Breanna. http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28203 Breanna. Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:29:12 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28203 It doesn't matter if it's the COT or the completely governed bodies from before that, it's going to be boring. Go back to atleast the 70s Nascar. First of all, it'll weed out the drivers only in it for money because the sponsors aren't going to want to be in something that doesn't pay as much. You'll get the actual racers sticking around. Secondly, it'll make the racing more interesting because the cars are actually all different, not this bs they run now about how there are still "slight differences" because of the grills. And should anyone bring up the point that they wouldn't be covered on tv all the time anymore, so? It's boring to watch them on tv anyway, and you're probably the same one blabbing about high ticket prices at races now. If there's not as much money involved to run the sport, ticket prices would go down. Now, if only Brian France would grow a brain. It doesn’t matter if it’s the COT or the completely governed bodies from before that, it’s going to be boring. Go back to atleast the 70s Nascar. First of all, it’ll weed out the drivers only in it for money because the sponsors aren’t going to want to be in something that doesn’t pay as much. You’ll get the actual racers sticking around. Secondly, it’ll make the racing more interesting because the cars are actually all different, not this bs they run now about how there are still “slight differences” because of the grills. And should anyone bring up the point that they wouldn’t be covered on tv all the time anymore, so? It’s boring to watch them on tv anyway, and you’re probably the same one blabbing about high ticket prices at races now. If there’s not as much money involved to run the sport, ticket prices would go down. Now, if only Brian France would grow a brain.

]]> By: hot rod todd http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28192 hot rod todd Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:49:39 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28192 who ever said that bristol with the cot cars was good? i think bristol sucks now, did any one see the bump and run? dident think so? they should of left the track alone. who ever said that bristol with the cot cars was good? i think bristol sucks now, did any one see the bump and run? dident think so? they should of left the track alone.

]]> By: Jeff http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28159 Jeff Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:40:46 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28159 [quote comment="28137"][quote comment="28134"]but 'dega I agree was more boring than usual[/quote] The only reason you and other people think THIS one Dega race was boring is because the media hyped it up about being the COT. I bet you anything none of you would have noticed this race being any different if it was the regular car, its only because everyones looking for its flaws because its the COT debut here.[/quote] WHAAAT? The spring Talladega race was just as freaking boring! Everyone got in a big line around the top and waited until the end to settle the thing. That's not racing. I can see cars riding in a big line on I-285 going around Atlanta every day! The CoT has made for some pretty uninteresting racing thus far. However, I think that given some time, NASCAR will make adjustments to the rules and smaller teams will catch up R&D wise, and things will even out. Roush certainly isn't going to stand by and let Chevy dominate for long, and JGR will be pulling Toyota up next year (hopefully). Yeah, the CoT is driving up costs. Any startup product will do that in any business. I'm not sure NASCAR did the best job with the implementation, but that's not the CoT's fault. In 2 years when teams aren't building 3 or 4 different chassis types for different tracks, you won't hear all this complaining and the CoT will be saving teams money like it was touted to do. Andy wrote:

glacierpoint wrote:

but ‘dega I agree was more boring than usual

The only reason you and other people think THIS one Dega race was
boring is because the media hyped it up about being the COT.
I bet you anything none of you would have noticed this race being
any different if it was the regular car, its only because everyones
looking for its flaws because its the COT debut here.

WHAAAT? The spring Talladega race was just as freaking boring! Everyone got in a big line around the top and waited until the end to settle the thing. That’s not racing. I can see cars riding in a big line on I-285 going around Atlanta every day!

The CoT has made for some pretty uninteresting racing thus far. However, I think that given some time, NASCAR will make adjustments to the rules and smaller teams will catch up R&D wise, and things will even out. Roush certainly isn’t going to stand by and let Chevy dominate for long, and JGR will be pulling Toyota up next year (hopefully).

Yeah, the CoT is driving up costs. Any startup product will do that in any business. I’m not sure NASCAR did the best job with the implementation, but that’s not the CoT’s fault. In 2 years when teams aren’t building 3 or 4 different chassis types for different tracks, you won’t hear all this complaining and the CoT will be saving teams money like it was touted to do.

]]> By: Herman http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28150 Herman Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:18:54 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28150 The reason that ratings are on the down slide is ABC not the racing. They cut aweay for commercials at the wrong time and don't return on a yellow until after the green flag is out. This can be very agravating since what Ryan Newman did this past weekend. They need to find someone that know auto racing and time the length of the connercial appropriately with the yellow flags. The reason that ratings are on the down slide is ABC not the racing. They cut aweay for commercials at the wrong time and don’t return on a yellow until after the green flag is out. This can be very agravating since what Ryan Newman did this past weekend. They need to find someone that know auto racing and time the length of the connercial appropriately with the yellow flags.

]]> By: Fisha695 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28144 Fisha695 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:56:40 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28144 I agree Roadracing is boring to watch on TV, but that is because you cant capture it properly on tv. Same can be said about NASCAR and any other type of racing. When watching on TV you will only see a little part of what is going on. Personally I would rather watch 4+ hours of roadracing instead of watching 4+ hours of Dega/Tona on tv though. I agree Roadracing is boring to watch on TV, but that is because you cant capture it properly on tv. Same can be said about NASCAR and any other type of racing. When watching on TV you will only see a little part of what is going on.

Personally I would rather watch 4+ hours of roadracing instead of watching 4+ hours of Dega/Tona on tv though.

]]> By: Mike B. http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28143 Mike B. Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:49:00 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28143 Although road racing takes some skill it is the most boring stuff to watch IMO. Although road racing takes some skill it is the most boring stuff to watch IMO.

]]> By: Andy http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28137 Andy Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:33:45 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28137 [quote comment="28134"]but 'dega I agree was more boring than usual[/quote] The only reason you and other people think THIS one Dega race was boring is because the media hyped it up about being the COT. I bet you anything none of you would have noticed this race being any different if it was the regular car, its only because everyones looking for its flaws because its the COT debut here. glacierpoint wrote:

but ‘dega I agree was more boring than usual

The only reason you and other people think THIS one Dega race was
boring is because the media hyped it up about being the COT.
I bet you anything none of you would have noticed this race being
any different if it was the regular car, its only because everyones
looking for its flaws because its the COT debut here.

]]> By: Fisha695 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28135 Fisha695 Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:32:11 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28135 Fox doesnt want the entire season because the NFL has always and will always pay more. Dega is allways single file racing for 98% of the race. Races a Dega and Tona need to be 25 laps long. Any longer then that and it'll get boring. Heck get rid of both tracks they require no skill, real racers race on short tracks and roadcourses were skill is required. Fox doesnt want the entire season because the NFL has always and will always pay more.

Dega is allways single file racing for 98% of the race. Races a Dega and Tona need to be 25 laps long. Any longer then that and it’ll get boring. Heck get rid of both tracks they require no skill, real racers race on short tracks and roadcourses were skill is required.

]]> By: glacierpoint http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28134 glacierpoint Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:18:14 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28134 I didn't get a chance to see the bristol race so I can't comment on that race but 'dega I agree was more boring than usual (i.e. single file racing). I think viewing is down because ESPN have a bunch of idiots in the booth. NASCAR needs to give FOX the entire season they (FOX) know how to call a race and the commentators are much more entertaining. I didn’t get a chance to see the bristol race so I can’t comment on that race but ‘dega I agree was more boring than usual (i.e. single file racing). I think viewing is down because ESPN have a bunch of idiots in the booth. NASCAR needs to give FOX the entire season they (FOX) know how to call a race and the commentators are much more entertaining.

]]> By: Anonymous http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28132 Anonymous Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:02:05 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28132 Brett Bodine was involved with all thus stuff. Enough said! Brett Bodine was involved with all thus stuff. Enough said!

]]> By: sean http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28115 sean Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:18:09 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28115 as a 10 year bristol season ticket holder. if you wanted to see racing bristol was great, if you are one of those people who just wants to see wrecks i can see why you didnt like it. i was there for both races this year and they were the best races i have ever seen there.the racing and passing were outstanding.who would have ever thought you would see 3 wide racing in the corners at bristol that didnt end up as a bunch of crumpled sheet metal. i cant wait till next year as a 10 year bristol season ticket holder. if you wanted to see racing bristol was great,
if you are one of those people who just wants to see wrecks i can see why you didnt like
it. i was there for both races this year and they were the best races i have ever seen
there.the racing and passing were outstanding.who would have ever thought you would see
3 wide racing in the corners at bristol that didnt end up as a bunch of crumpled sheet
metal. i cant wait till next year

]]> By: gkirb http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28113 gkirb Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:01:10 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28113 I like the safety aspect of the COT and that is very important, we don't need to needlessly loose any more drivers life's. But the car does need some tweaks. I do think by this time next year it will be a hole lot better! I like the safety aspect of the COT and that is very important, we don’t need to needlessly loose any more drivers life’s. But the car does need some tweaks. I do think by this time next year it will be a hole lot better!

]]> By: Fisha695 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28112 Fisha695 Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:37:50 +0000 http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/car-of-tomorrow-driving-up-costs-not-reducing-them/#comment-28112 Whoever wrote this article needs to get their head checked. Bristol was one of the best Bristols I have seen in my 19 years of living. It was actually about RACING. And Dega is ALWAYS Boring, so the COT didnt ruin it, it just continued the trend that has always been. As far as the ratingings going down. Yeah do some research on the Nielsen system and how ratings are determined and then you decide if the ratings are really something that we should be going off of. As far as it "Driving up costs" NASCAR said from Day 1 that it will be an investment. It will cost some money to get going, but after its going it will cost less because in theory you will only need 2 or 3 chassis instead of 22 or 33. Whoever wrote this article needs to get their head checked. Bristol was one of the best Bristols I have seen in my 19 years of living. It was actually about RACING. And Dega is ALWAYS Boring, so the COT didnt ruin it, it just continued the trend that has always been.

As far as the ratingings going down. Yeah do some research on the Nielsen system and how ratings are determined and then you decide if the ratings are really something that we should be going off of.

As far as it “Driving up costs” NASCAR said from Day 1 that it will be an investment. It will cost some money to get going, but after its going it will cost less because in theory you will only need 2 or 3 chassis instead of 22 or 33.

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