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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here's my take on the points system and qualifing.  

I don't think points should matter one bit in qualifing.  That's just part of the race, to make sure you are fast enough to make the race.  I think that's part of being a championship team, being able to set your car up properly to make the race and compete in the race.  Now, I know I'm going to hear from a lot of you that say past champions should be guarenteed a spot, well, yes and no.  If their car is not fast enough to make the show then they shouldn't make the show.  Now, I understand that if a certain team cannot make it in on qualifing, then they may be in trouble with sponsers, have other money trouble, etc. if indeed it is an occuring issue.  Well, what I have to say to that is this, if that were the case, then they would be sure to push harder to get the job done.  

Basically what I'm saying, the fastest 43 cars race on Sunday/Saturday night, simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here&#8217;s my take on the points system and qualifing.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think points should matter one bit in qualifing.  That&#8217;s just part of the race, to make sure you are fast enough to make the race.  I think that&#8217;s part of being a championship team, being able to set your car up properly to make the race and compete in the race.  Now, I know I&#8217;m going to hear from a lot of you that say past champions should be guarenteed a spot, well, yes and no.  If their car is not fast enough to make the show then they shouldn&#8217;t make the show.  Now, I understand that if a certain team cannot make it in on qualifing, then they may be in trouble with sponsers, have other money trouble, etc. if indeed it is an occuring issue.  Well, what I have to say to that is this, if that were the case, then they would be sure to push harder to get the job done.  </p>
<p>Basically what I&#8217;m saying, the fastest 43 cars race on Sunday/Saturday night, simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="39788"][quote comment="39781"]The only way it'll change is if they go to an F1 type setup.[/quote]

As someonw who does not watch f1.... can someone explain the f1 setup for me?[/quote]

There is a 2 car limit per team (which could change to fit NASCAR if NASCAR would go to that setup) And there are 11 (well 10 now that one has withdrawn) teams that are allowed to race during this season, so its only those 20 cars at the track for the race weekend, so when you qualify you are only qualifying for starting position not to make the race. 

I guess the easiest way to explain it is NASCAR Cup series is an open series, within reason Anybody can bring a car to any race and compete, F1 is a closed series where only certain teams can compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/a-prime-example-why-nascars-points-system-is-unfair/#comment-39788" title="View original comment"><cite>ganjadude</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/a-prime-example-why-nascars-points-system-is-unfair/#comment-39781" title="View original comment"><cite>Fisha695</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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The only way it&#8217;ll change is if they go to an F1 type setup.</p>
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<p>As someonw who does not watch f1&#8230;. can someone explain the f1 setup for me?</p>
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<p>There is a 2 car limit per team (which could change to fit NASCAR if NASCAR would go to that setup) And there are 11 (well 10 now that one has withdrawn) teams that are allowed to race during this season, so its only those 20 cars at the track for the race weekend, so when you qualify you are only qualifying for starting position not to make the race. </p>
<p>I guess the easiest way to explain it is NASCAR Cup series is an open series, within reason Anybody can bring a car to any race and compete, F1 is a closed series where only certain teams can compete.</p>
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		<title>By: ganjadude</title>
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		<dc:creator>ganjadude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 08:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="39781"]The only way it'll change is if they go to an F1 type setup.[/quote]

As someonw who does not watch f1.... can someone explain the f1 setup for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/a-prime-example-why-nascars-points-system-is-unfair/#comment-39781" title="View original comment"><cite>Fisha695</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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The only way it&#8217;ll change is if they go to an F1 type setup.</p>
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<p>As someonw who does not watch f1&#8230;. can someone explain the f1 setup for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way it'll change is if they go to an F1 type setup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way it&#8217;ll change is if they go to an F1 type setup.</p>
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		<title>By: George Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The top 35 rule wont change until someone like Jr, Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart is on the outside looking in. As long as their best cash cows make the race it wont be changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The top 35 rule wont change until someone like Jr, Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart is on the outside looking in. As long as their best cash cows make the race it wont be changed.</p>
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		<title>By: teresa88fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>teresa88fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="39747"]DUMP THE 35 RULE, it makes no sense except to the sponsor of a driver who cant get in on time, its NOT real racing, im against it and so is anyone else in the garage that like REAL RACING.

THE TOP 43 CARS ON SPEED, thats the way it should be. period[/quote]

I agree, and I am for locking in the top 12 only and everyone else races in on speed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://autoracingsport.com/nascar/a-prime-example-why-nascars-points-system-is-unfair/#comment-39747" title="View original comment"><cite>Howie motorsports photography</cite> wrote:</a></p>
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DUMP THE 35 RULE, it makes no sense except to the sponsor of a driver who cant get in on time, its NOT real racing, im against it and so is anyone else in the garage that like REAL RACING.</p>
<p>THE TOP 43 CARS ON SPEED, thats the way it should be. period</p>
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<p>I agree, and I am for locking in the top 12 only and everyone else races in on speed</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Howie. I doubt we'll ever see the day where the top 43 race and anyone else goes home, but I keep hoping they'll tweak the rule. I think it would be really nice if they just locked in the Chase eligible drivers every week. That would give some kind of incentive to get up front and keep people from settling for running in the top 25 week in and week out, and put more emphasis on the top 12 during the 'regular season'. Again, probably won't ever happen but I wish they'd do SOMETHING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Howie. I doubt we&#8217;ll ever see the day where the top 43 race and anyone else goes home, but I keep hoping they&#8217;ll tweak the rule. I think it would be really nice if they just locked in the Chase eligible drivers every week. That would give some kind of incentive to get up front and keep people from settling for running in the top 25 week in and week out, and put more emphasis on the top 12 during the &#8216;regular season&#8217;. Again, probably won&#8217;t ever happen but I wish they&#8217;d do SOMETHING!</p>
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		<title>By: Howie motorsports photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie motorsports photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DUMP THE 35 RULE, it makes no sense except to the sponsor of a driver who cant get in on time, its NOT real racing, im against it and so is anyone else in the garage that like REAL RACING. 


THE TOP 43 CARS ON SPEED, thats the way it should be. period</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUMP THE 35 RULE, it makes no sense except to the sponsor of a driver who cant get in on time, its NOT real racing, im against it and so is anyone else in the garage that like REAL RACING. </p>
<p>THE TOP 43 CARS ON SPEED, thats the way it should be. period</p>
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		<title>By: gigolo george</title>
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		<dc:creator>gigolo george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woooooooooooooooooo, Nature boy!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woooooooooooooooooo, Nature boy!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fisha695</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fisha695</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage everybody to go to the link at the end of this article and then click on where it says "Report typo or correction" and let that paper know how many factual errors that writer has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everybody to go to the link at the end of this article and then click on where it says &#8220;Report typo or correction&#8221; and let that paper know how many factual errors that writer has.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That comment concerning the level of technology of NASCAR being even comparable
to formula 1 is completely false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That comment concerning the level of technology of NASCAR being even comparable<br />
to formula 1 is completely false.</p>
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		<title>By: rodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy doesnt know very much about NASCAR.

"The cars in the Sprint Cup Series these days are just about as sophisticated as Formula One cars."
-hardly, and the setups can be changed at the track as well, in case you didnt notice Jeff Gordon go from getting lapped early to a top ten, without computers, just good adjusments. You can not do that in F1.

"And because his team can’t use the computer to make the adjustments necessary to get the car into race trim after he’s qualified, he’s stuck with the qualifying setup for the rest of the weekend."
-why not? others teams make those adjustments every week.

"His car was just about undriveable - it had a full load of fuel, after all, as compared to the light load he ran during qualifying"
-ummm no.  NASCAR rules require all teams to qualify with a full load of fuel, there isn't any of that running light crap, but this statement does make this entire article bunk, F1 fan writing about a NASCAR race because he doesn't understand why his buddy had a bad night.

thats racin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy doesnt know very much about NASCAR.</p>
<p>&#8220;The cars in the Sprint Cup Series these days are just about as sophisticated as Formula One cars.&#8221;<br />
-hardly, and the setups can be changed at the track as well, in case you didnt notice Jeff Gordon go from getting lapped early to a top ten, without computers, just good adjusments. You can not do that in F1.</p>
<p>&#8220;And because his team can’t use the computer to make the adjustments necessary to get the car into race trim after he’s qualified, he’s stuck with the qualifying setup for the rest of the weekend.&#8221;<br />
-why not? others teams make those adjustments every week.</p>
<p>&#8220;His car was just about undriveable - it had a full load of fuel, after all, as compared to the light load he ran during qualifying&#8221;<br />
-ummm no.  NASCAR rules require all teams to qualify with a full load of fuel, there isn&#8217;t any of that running light crap, but this statement does make this entire article bunk, F1 fan writing about a NASCAR race because he doesn&#8217;t understand why his buddy had a bad night.</p>
<p>thats racin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the top35 rule is unfair. Wah. NASCAR isn't going to change it, even for this Canadian homer's buddy Carpentier. Everyone around the top35 cutoff is playing by the same rules. They all know where they stand when they show up to the track. If you know you need two good laps on your qualifying run, just work on a race setup and a qualifying setup. If it's an impound race then you just have to make what changes you can on-track once the race gets underway.

You should have included this idiot's first part of that article too... He says NASCAR should fine Shrub because it was obvious that he (his exactl words here) "deliberately wrecked Dale Earnhardt Jr. at Richmond on Saturday night". Is this guy a card-carrying member of Jr Nation or what?

I'd be willing to bet that most Jr fans think Shrub was just reckless as usual. I hope I'm right when I say I think there's a small minority that believes it was intentional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the top35 rule is unfair. Wah. NASCAR isn&#8217;t going to change it, even for this Canadian homer&#8217;s buddy Carpentier. Everyone around the top35 cutoff is playing by the same rules. They all know where they stand when they show up to the track. If you know you need two good laps on your qualifying run, just work on a race setup and a qualifying setup. If it&#8217;s an impound race then you just have to make what changes you can on-track once the race gets underway.</p>
<p>You should have included this idiot&#8217;s first part of that article too&#8230; He says NASCAR should fine Shrub because it was obvious that he (his exactl words here) &#8220;deliberately wrecked Dale Earnhardt Jr. at Richmond on Saturday night&#8221;. Is this guy a card-carrying member of Jr Nation or what?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be willing to bet that most Jr fans think Shrub was just reckless as usual. I hope I&#8217;m right when I say I think there&#8217;s a small minority that believes it was intentional.</p>
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