People!!! Attendance, souvenir sales and ratings have been dropping for years due to FRANCE’S POLITICS!

MANY long time NASCAR fans have left it behind due to it “BECOMING TOO POLITICAL”

I have been hearing this more and more for 10 years now![/quote]

How has NASCAR become political? I mean I understand Backstage Politics in Pro-Wrestling, but how the heck does that even work in NASCAR? Oh that’s right it DOESN’T.

People!!! Attendance, souvenir sales and ratings have been dropping for years due to FRANCE’S POLITICS!

MANY long time NASCAR fans have left it behind due to it “BECOMING TOO POLITICAL”

I have been hearing this more and more for 10 years now!

as far as TV ratings.i could have sworn i heard somewhere that they were doing good. and as far as attendance, i blame the weather, i mean the past few weeks NASCAR went to tracks where it rained most of the weekend.

as for examples.

1) the Coca cola 600
2) the weekend after that at Dover
3) Pocono the week before last
4) last week at Michigan
they all either had rain on raceday or at certain times during the weekend. and i don’t know about you but i wouldn’t want to be at a race track when it is raining.[/quote]It’s not all due to bad weather even last year Bristol and richmond still had tickets for sale on race day.

as far as TV ratings.i could have sworn i heard somewhere that they were doing good. and as far as attendance, i blame the weather, i mean the past few weeks NASCAR went to tracks where it rained most of the weekend.

as for examples.

1) the Coca cola 600
2) the weekend after that at Dover
3) Pocono the week before last
4) last week at Michigan
they all either had rain on raceday or at certain times during the weekend. and i don’t know about you but i wouldn’t want to be at a race track when it is raining.

If anything, should Gordon retire from NASCAR it’s because he would probably want to devote time and effort in an all-out attempt to win the Indy 500 (he is from there originally), which for him might very well still be his ultimate dream. Remember, had there not been the CART-IRL split in the mid-’90s (that wound up fueling NASCAR’s growth), Gordon could very well have wound up in open wheel racing instead of NASCAR on a full-time basis (for a long time, a lot of Indy Car drivers also drove part-time in NASCAR).

As for the drop in ratings and lack of attendance, I blame a lot of it on the economy not as much as the COT. The lack of passing in the Sprint Cup Series is one thing, but not nearly as bad as some would like you to believe. It’s just that for quite a while, the IRL had more compelling racing even if it was with people (aside from Danica Patrick) that few knew about outside the sport (and moving to Versus was a mistake for them). NASCAR does need to make some changes, and one I would make is to have more road course races, which to me are more appealing for one.

QW in SO-CAL

I think JG will retire, the end of 09. If not then, 2010 will be his last year. That will also be
the end of my boring races. I know he will be involved in NASCAR, but that won’t be enough
for me to continue watching NASCAR.[/quote]Why would you stop watching NASCAR just because Gordon retires which I dont see him doing anytime soon…he’s not old and racing is something he’s done his whole life,the only way I could see him retiring would be because of health issues.

#2 – People may dislike the COT, but it’s not turning people from the tracks and keeping them away from the TV. Like you said, true fans of racing would watch these guys race IROC cars, Oscar Meyer weinermobiles, factory stock hybrids, etc. Plain-vanilla drivers, viewers’ short attention spans, Jimmie Johnson winning everything, mega-team dominance, and the economy changing people’s spending habits all have contributed to the falloffs, but not the car.

#3 – That mentality might have worked 20 years ago before you could get on the internet and research everything you wanted to know about a car and make an educated decision about buying a car. Back then, yeah, you saw the King winning races in a Charger, Superbird, or whatever, and that might be all you need to know that you should have one! You couldn’t get online and find out that a GTO might have more horsepower, better handling, better maintenance history, etc. That sort of mentality worked better 20 years ago when foreign cars weren’t nearly as prominent as they are today too. Now the market is much more diverse, including tons of cars that are comparable to the cars that cup cars are made to resemble, but don’t run in the series.[/quote]I agree for the most part as for the economy being the reason why so many seats are empty but tv ratings are going in the toilet too and the COT does have something to do with it the racing plain sucks…but it is the economy more than anything,as for the win on sunday buy on monday deal goes I agree thats pretty much dead has been for along time.

I think JG will retire, the end of 09. If not then, 2010 will be his last year. That will also be
the end of my boring races. I know he will be involved in NASCAR, but that won’t be enough
for me to continue watching NASCAR.

#2 – People may dislike the COT, but it’s not turning people from the tracks and keeping them away from the TV. Like you said, true fans of racing would watch these guys race IROC cars, Oscar Meyer weinermobiles, factory stock hybrids, etc. Plain-vanilla drivers, viewers’ short attention spans, Jimmie Johnson winning everything, mega-team dominance, and the economy changing people’s spending habits all have contributed to the falloffs, but not the car.

#3 – That mentality might have worked 20 years ago before you could get on the internet and research everything you wanted to know about a car and make an educated decision about buying a car. Back then, yeah, you saw the King winning races in a Charger, Superbird, or whatever, and that might be all you need to know that you should have one! You couldn’t get online and find out that a GTO might have more horsepower, better handling, better maintenance history, etc. That sort of mentality worked better 20 years ago when foreign cars weren’t nearly as prominent as they are today too. Now the market is much more diverse, including tons of cars that are comparable to the cars that cup cars are made to resemble, but don’t run in the series.

he may be negitive but usually to shine a light to something, Fisha knows his stuff. I didnt know you were only 21 fisha you seem much older by your posts

as for the topic… i can only hope this does happen, ive been saying it along with the rest of you for years now

Ticket prices… Guess what NASCAR does not control ticket prices, the track does.

This won’t be the first time NASCAR didn’t have car maker support, and well the last time the manufactures pulled out the sports popularity grew by leaps and bounds.[/quote]Nascar not controlling ticket prices is true for the most part but they could lower prices at ISC tracks.

By “Buy American” do you mean as in name wise but made in Canada or Mexico, or as in Foreign owned companies that make their cars in the US?